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Old 02-11-2011, 07:32 AM   #1
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Default U.S. pushes left and Europe moves Right. Multiculturalism failed in Europe.

Germany, England, now France. Yep, France.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110210...20110210231042
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Old 02-11-2011, 08:22 AM   #2
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Multiculturalism is absurd, and anyone who supports it is an azzclown. When you move to a country, you need to assimilate into that country's culture. If you are so desirous of retaining, for example, the "culture" of Mexico, there is a place that already has it. Mexico. STAY there. Don't come here and expect us to accommodate you. Learn, prior to going to the gas station, how to say "I'd like $20 dollars of regular on Pump #6." And, don't act like the clerk is an idiot because she doesn't speak Spanish...

If you want a place that is ruled under Sharia law, there are places like that too. Don't come here and expect that we will tolerate you stoning your 17 year old daughter to death because she didn't wear a burkha to school and she held hands with a Catholic, or a Protestant, or an Atheist...
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Old 02-11-2011, 08:48 AM   #3
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Nicholas Sarkozy said it very well, I think. He said that " If you come to France, you accept to melt into a single community, which is the national community, and if you do not want to accept that, you cannot be welcome in France. The French national comunity cannot accept a change in lifestyle, equality between men and women . . . freedom for little girls to go to school." Of course, this is Sarkozy's view. Hard to say for sure how the French voters, French unions would stand on this position.

I think the same could be said for the US. We should not be afraid to say we have a culture, the culture is X, the culture is not compatible with Y, and if you want to maintain Y, stay out. Of course, this is precisely what liberals and the media will not allow us to say or maintain. Note I'm not defining what X is and it may be problematic to define what X is, but notwithstanding this could be done.

Look at what Sarkozy did. To some extent the culture of France, what France stands for, can be evoked in the words liberty, equality, and brotherhood. Sarkozy says that's what our nation is all about, and if you want to prevent little girls going to school . . . that's not OK, that is not conformable with liberty or equality. So get the he11 out!!! I'm all for that. And I suspect we could find some similar universal tenets that we in the US can subscribe to and use to exclude some behaviors that are noxious to our culture and way of life.

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Old 02-11-2011, 12:52 PM   #4
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Here's a few words from a past US President on the subject...

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American ... There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag ... We have room but for one language here, and that is the English language ... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is loyalty to the American people."

--Theodore Roosevelt 1907

In 1916, he repeated much of the 1907 speech with these slight additions and changes...

"If he (the immigrant) tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing he part as an American.

We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag which symbolizes al wars against liberty and civilization just as much as it excludes any foregin flag of a nation to whcih we are hostils. We have room for but one language here and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, and American nationality, and not a dwellers in a polyglot boarding house; and we have room for but one soul [sic] loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people."

For more background on the social and political situation of the country when these quotes were made, see this link

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/troosevelt.asp
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Old 02-13-2011, 01:16 AM   #5
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It's a crying shame but you won't hear anybody talking that sort'a talk in DC anytime soon.....
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:06 AM   #6
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Its about time the french " woke up" some- But i think a few yrs back the dutch basicly said the same things( i think the murders & rapes & yrly riots in holland& france etc in the streets by radical muslims may have tiped im off). About 4-5 yrs ago i read part of the book- While europe slept-( pretty good book). I think someone here has mentioned it also.

I believe the author of the book & his partner moved to europe for there liberal policys on homosexuality( and found radical muslims & anti amerianism run amuck instead)

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Dutch politician turning to American conservatives for ideas in reining in - and keeping-out - radical Muslims


By Alicia Colon
Jewish World Review Jan. 17, 2005 New York City is the epitome of the great melting pot of America. In just a five-block radius around my house, I can find residents from eleven different countries. My neighbors include Albanian, Palestinian and Pakistani Muslims; Polish, Puerto Rican, Honduran and Mexican Catholics; Korean Methodists; Hindus from India; and Buddhists from Sri Lanka. Everyone seems to get along without too much fuss. As much as we think that immigration is a serious problem here in the United States, we should thank our lucky stars we don't live in Holland.
But it is pretty ironic we move even more to the left as liberal europe moves more right.


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During the 1973 oil crisis, the European Economic Community (predecessor of the European Union), had entered into the Euro-Arab Dialogue (EAD) with the Arab League.[4] Bat Ye'or later used the journal title Eurabia to describe the associated political developments.
In her book, Bat Ye'or states that Eurabia is the result of the French-led European policy originally intended to increase European power against the United States by aligning its interests with those of the Arab countries, and regards it as a primary cause of European hostility to Israel. Her definition of the term is:
Eurabia is a geo-political reality envisaged in 1973 through a system of informal alliances between, on the one hand, the nine countries of the European Community (EC) which, enlarged, became the European Union (EU) in 1992 and on the other hand, the Mediterranean Arab countries. The alliances and agreements were elaborated at the top political level of each EC country with the representative of the European Commission, and their Arab homologues with the Arab League's delegate. This system was synchronised under the roof of an association called the Euro-Arab Dialogue (EAD) created in July 1974 in Paris.
[QUOTE2] A few readers worry that I am giving advice to the enemy in my penultimate paragraph:
Islamist terrorism in the West is counterproductive because it awakens the sleeping masses; in brief, jihad provokes crusade. A more cunning Islamist enemy would advance its totalitarian agenda through Mafia-like intimidation, not brazen murders.
I worried too about this, especially as I know that the Islamists read my articles. But I went ahead with the paragraph (and might write in more depth on the same topic) because I believe the most valuable service I can render in this war is to make anti-Islamists aware of the problem they face.

(3) The backlash against radical Islam continues. Today's Telegraaf reports (as does Expatica) that a two-thirds majority of the Dutch Lower House supports the abolition of the blasphemy law introduced in the 1930s that bans religious insults. (November 16, 2004)

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Old 02-13-2011, 04:07 AM   #7
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