A real problem in this country when it comes to people and jobs is education. When we are now producing on average something in the middle school range education for our youth after 12 years of indoctination, this country will have a hard time moving forward. We are the manufacturing super power. however, as I have said before, automation is doing more and more work displacing factory workers. However, when cities like Detroit are now producng 50% of their people unable to read, they are prepared for the real world. When the majority of black maleyouth are in that catagory, I wish Beau would ask his party he is so loyal to, what the hell are the Dems doing for them? Perhaps, I should say, to them.
The story is about American Manufacturing. however, perhaps after you read it, I bolded the text regarding better jobs requiring better education. A large chunk of our youth won't get there with what the NEA is producing today. That's why my kids aren't being taught by the NEA and the public school system.
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Jeff Jacoby Made in the USA
US manufacturing still tops China’s by nearly 46 percent
By Jeff Jacoby
Globe Columnist / February 6, 2011 IN ECONOMICS as in apparel, most fashions come and go. But like the navy blazer or the little black dress, bewailing the decline of American manufacturing never seems to go out of style.
“They’re closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks
Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they ain’t coming back.’’
So sang Bruce Springsteen in “My Hometown,’’ a hit song from his 1984 album, “Born in the U.S.A.’’ More than a quarter-century later, that sentiment (if not the song) is as popular as ever.
“You know, we don’t manufacture anything anymore in this country,’’ says Donald Trump in an interview with CNNMoney. “We do health care; we do lots of different services. But . . . everything is made in China, for the most part.’’
The Donald has his idiosyncrasies, but on this issue he is squarely in the mainstream.
A recent Heartland Monitor survey finds “clear anxiety about the decades-long employment shift away from manufacturing to service jobs,’’ National Journal’s Ron Brownstein reported in December. The “decline of US manufacturing’’ is giving Americans a “sense of economic precariousness’’ — only one in five believe that the United States has the world’s strongest economy, versus nearly half who think China is in the lead. “Near the root of the unease for many of those polled is the worry that the United States no longer makes enough stuff.’’ When asked why US manufacturing jobs have declined, 58 percent cite off-shoring by American companies to take advantage of lower labor costs.
There’s just one problem with all the gloom and doom about American manufacturing. It’s wrong.
Americans make more “stuff’’ than any other nation on earth, and by a wide margin. According to the United Nations’ comprehensive database of international economic data, America’s manufacturing output in 2009 (expressed in constant 2005 dollars) was $2.15 trillion. That surpassed China’s output of $1.48 trillion by nearly 46 percent. China’s industries may be booming, but the United States still accounted for 20 percent of the world’s manufacturing output in 2009 — only a hair below its 1990 share of 21 percent.
“The decline, demise, and death of America’s manufacturing sector has been greatly exaggerated,’’ says economist Mark Perry, a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. “America still makes a ton of stuff, and we make more of it now than ever before in history.’’ In fact, Americans manufactured more goods in 2009 than the ***anese, Germans, British, and Italians — combined.
American manufacturing output hits a new high almost every year. US industries are powerhouses of production: Measured in constant dollars, America’s manufacturing output today is more than double what it was in the early 1970s.
So why do so many Americans fear that the Chinese are eating our lunch?
Part of the reason is that fewer Americans work in factories. Millions of industrial jobs have vanished in recent decades, and there is no denying the hardship and stress that has meant for many families. But factory employment has declined because factory productivity has so dramatically skyrocketed: Revolutions in technology enable an American worker today to produce far more than his counterpart did a generation ago. Consequently, even as America’s manufacturing sector out-produces every other country on earth, millions of young Americans can aspire to become not factory hands or assembly workers, but doctors and lawyers, architects and engineers.
Perceptions also feed the gloom and doom. In its story on Americans’ economic anxiety, National Journal quotes a Florida teacher who says, “It seems like everything I pick up says ‘Made in China’ on it.’’ To someone shopping for toys, shoes, or sporting equipment, it often can seem that way. But that’s because Chinese factories tend to specialize in low-tech, labor-intensive goods — items that typically don’t require the more advanced and sophisticated manufacturing capabilities of modern American plants.
A vast amount of “stuff’’ is still made in the USA, albeit not the inexpensive consumer goods that fill the shelves in Target or Walgreens. American factories make fighter jets and air conditioners, automobiles and pharmaceuticals, industrial lathes and semiconductors. Not the sort of things on your weekly shopping list? Maybe not. But that doesn’t change economic reality. They may have “clos[ed] down the textile mill across the railroad tracks.’’ But America’s manufacturing glory is far from a thing of the past.
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This kind of stuff is to be expected in a society where 25-50 percent of teenagers drop out of school before graduating.
In 2006 a study commissioned by the Christian Science monitor found:
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The picture is worse for urban school districts, especially those serving poor students, the new study shows. Graduation rates in the largest school districts range from 21.7 percent in Detroit and 38.5 percent in Maryland's Baltimore County to 82.5 percent in Virginia's Fairfax County.
1: low-level manufacturing jobs were, for a long time, the mainstay of under- and un-educated people. As long as those jobs existed, we had a venue for this section of the population to earn a living, however meager it may have been. Between these and day-labor jobs (road crews, construction demolition/cleanup crews, etc...) there was a way for these people to earn a living. Not so much anymore...a lot of the low level 'labor' jobs have been unionized so they are unavailable to many uneducated people. Now, while I bemoan the absence of 'Made in U.S.A.' on the majority of the labels, it's not so much that the items are made overseas per se, it's that there are people out of work domestically who SHOULD have had the opportunity to make that item. IT's the reason for buying based on point of origin (Made in the USA).
2: When teachers were tasked with teaching sex education, hygiene, and other subject matter which was traditionally taught at home, and when the schools became NOT a place of learning, but rather places where kids were fed and housed like giant daycare centers, and when teachers were stripped of their unquestioned authority (and their ability to enforce 'rules of conduct') and responsibility over kids in-class behavior, this is where the educational system went down the toilet.
Teachers are not there to feed our kids; that's our job. Teachers are not there to socialize our kids, that's our job as parents. Kids are supposed to learn about sex and STD's from their parents, not in school. School provided much needed structure and this structure was enforced by the teacher's ability to punish, reward, motivate. When these failed, teachers could always go to the parent and have that kid 'motivated' when he got home. That's all gone now.
So, kids don't have to say "The Pledge", Prayer is outlawed (structure), teachers cannot punish/reward/motivate (might make a kid feel like the puke that he is, or make one kid feel BETTER about him/her self than the others do), and the parents do not do their parts in bringing up their own kids. So what we have, is the product of this decay in the method of education, parenting, and absolutely no teacher authority in the classroom. Kids choose to NOT be educated...and the teachers are powerless to stop a child's idea of what 'should be', no matter how wrong it may be. This is the direct result of 'liberal politics' which have governed the public school system.
Just for the record, I went to private school (parochial) which allowed corporal punishment of the kids. Last june, I went to he 40th graduation anniversary reunion of my GRAMMAR school class of 1970. Not a puke in the bunch. ALL college educated to one degree or another....doctors, lawyers, entrepeneurs, businessmen, scientists...there were some who went to the same High school as I did (another parochial school...the high school who graduated Vince Lombardy way back when), and these again, were highly successful people. We went to school when schools were tasked with TEACHING kids and not socializing them....they were tasked with keeping order inthe class which they did (sometimes ruthlessly I'll admit)....and our parents did THEIR jobs, ESPECIALLY when the teacher called to report on miscreant behavior which needed to be corrected.
Unless we can somehow return to what was always a successful method of turning out productive people, it will not matter if we spend trillions of educational dollars every week, it's not gonna make one damn bit of difference. IMO, entrusting something as important as education to a kid's sense of judgement and fair play, is the height of neglect.
SO>>....... if all we can turn out is day-laborers and seamstresses and people who cannot participate in the TYPES of jobs that are available domestically, we will continue to have the sort of disgruntled underclass who complains about 'manufacturing jobs' are declining and "China is kicking our butts' on the world market.
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Until we start holding kids and parents as accountable as we do the teachers, the problem will remain. Until Parents start insisting that their child be taught to at the appropriate level, and not down to the lowest common denominator, (and hold their child to the same level) the problems will remain. As it stands, most of the stink in the educational system is meeting the needs of the special ed kids instead of pushing the upper level to greatness. I know the liberal NEA loves to fight for the underdog, but the underdog never created a job. And the NEAs idea of meeting the special ed kids needs, is to throw them in classes they could never accomplish without the teacher watering down the material to the point it is nothing more than babysitting. Instead of teaching life skills or work skills, they throw special ed kids, who cannot read or do basic math, into physics/chemistry/trig/etc. etc. classes in an attempt to better the special ed students self esteem.
Something else I encounter on a regular basis is a sense of entitlement. I have had kids who will do nothing, and when they are addressed on the issue I get, "My mom has never worked, so why should I".
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Something else; Schools should be able to kick kids out of school. Why do we insist that students who refuse to learn and do nothing but disturb the whole school, stay in school. This does nothing but throw a monkey wrench in the system. Kick them out and put the burden on the parents.
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education has little to do with it,
our history where we thrived wasnt because of high education rates.
also when compared to other countries, US is 1 the only countries that educates everyone,
asian countries score high in education levels because they are not educating those working in the rice fields,
europe scores higher because they dont educate every immigrant legal and illegal that enters their country,
so yes US has higher drop out rates and lower scores,
but we count everyone, legal and illegal, rich and poor,
And the NEAs idea of meeting the special ed kids needs, is to throw them in classes they could never accomplish without the teacher watering down the material to the point it is nothing more than babysitting. Instead of teaching life skills or work skills, they throw special ed kids, who cannot read or do basic math, into physics/chemistry/trig/etc. etc. classes in an attempt to better the special ed students self esteem.
It ain't only the NEA. The No Child Left Behind crap was shoved down teachers throats by Teddy Baby Kennedy and George W. Bush.
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Originally Posted by Terasec
education has little to do with it,
our history where we thrived wasnt because of high education rates.
also when compared to other countries, US is 1 the only countries that educates everyone,
asian countries score high in education levels because they are not educating those working in the rice fields,
europe scores higher because they dont educate every immigrant legal and illegal that enters their country,
so yes US has higher drop out rates and lower scores,
but we count everyone, legal and illegal, rich and poor,
Amen. I have not seen one legit comparison. Never apples to apples. It always apples to oranges.
Something else, Does anyone believe China or any Asian country would tolerate the crap American teachers are forced to tolerate? Do you think the kids are as bold in an Asian Class rooom as they are in an American?
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Made In The USA
IN ECONOMICS as in apparel, most fashions come and go. But like the navy blazer or the little black dress, bewailing the decline of American manufacturing never seems to go out of style.
