Nope he was for NAFTA. Hey what part of Michigan are you from?
If he was I'm sure it was for good reasons. He was a visonary and gave the country a chance to prove it was as grand as he believed, they let him down.
Tell me why I waste my time? Since NAFTA was signed, over 20 million jobs were created here in the United States. So tell me again, how bad was NAFTA?
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Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Tell me why I waste my time? Since NAFTA was signed, over 20 million jobs were created here in the United States. So tell me again, how bad was NAFTA?
That 20 mil number, what years was that? Anyway, Michigan has not, noway, no how, benefited from NAFTA. Which is what prompted me to post what I did. 20 mil, nice number. All a direct result of NAFTA?
That 20 mil number, what years was that? Anyway, Michigan has not, noway, no how, benefited from NAFTA. Which is what prompted me to post what I did. 20 mil, nice number. All a direct result of NAFTA?
So, Michigan troubles are all due to NAFTa. That's a laugh. If that's really the case, how come the right to work states have been expanding manufacturing plants? Why is it that BMW, Volkswagon and others found homes in right to work states if Michigan is sitting on such skilled labor?
Fact is 360, manufacturing jobs in America have been on the decline not because of free trade agreements, shipping jobs over seas, they have been on the decline mostly due to Automation by far. However, we aren't the only ones. Look at these stats: http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/artic...tectionism.htm
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*********** Since there is no moral argument for preventing one person from trading with another, anti-traders shift their argument to a patriotic appeal such as suggesting that we're losing our manufacturing sector. That doesn't square with the facts. According to a report given by Dr. William Strauss, senior economist for the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, titled "Is U.S. Losing Its Manufacturing Base?" (http://www.edcchicago.org/ecom/2008/edc062508.htm) the answer is no. In each of the past 60 years, U.S. manufacturing output growth has averaged 4 percent and productivity growth has averaged 3 percent. Manufacturing is going through the same process as agriculture. In 1900, 41 percent of American workers were employed in agriculture; today, only 2 percent are and agricultural output is greater. In 1940, 35 percent of workers were employed in manufacturing jobs; today, it's about 10 percent. Again, because of huge productivity gains, manufacturing output is greater.
*********** The decline in manufacturing employment is not limited to the U.S. Since 2000, China has lost over 4.5 million manufacturing jobs. In fact, nine of the top 10 manufacturing countries, which produce 75 percent of the world's manufacturing output (the U.S., ***an, Germany, China, Britain, France, Italy, Korea, Canada, and Mexico), have lost manufacturing jobs but their manufacturing output has risen.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
So, Michigan troubles are all due to NAFTa. That's a laugh. If that's really the case, how come the right to work states have been expanding manufacturing plants? Why is it that BMW, Volkswagon and others found homes in right to work states if Michigan is sitting on such skilled labor?
Fact is 360, manufacturing jobs in America have been on the decline not because of free trade agreements, shipping jobs over seas, they have been on the decline mostly due to Automation by far. However, we aren't the only ones. Look at these stats: http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/artic...tectionism.htm
Never said all of Michigans problems are due to NAFTA, Michigan hasn't benefited from NAFTA. My job went to Mexico, not automation.
Never said all of Michigans problems are due to NAFTA, Michigan hasn't benefited from NAFTA. My job went to Mexico, not automation.
Well then, perhaps it was time to move out of Michigan. On the other hand, I'm positive Michigan benefitted from NAFTA. Just because your job may have left, doesn't at all mean more were created some where else in Michigan. NAFta has been a net job increase not decrease. However, it sure makes a great talking point when the masses don't know any better!
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Well then, perhaps it was time to move out of Michigan. On the other hand, I'm positive Michigan benefitted from NAFTA. Just because your job may have left, doesn't at all mean more were created some where else in Michigan. NAFta has been a net job increase not decrease. However, it sure makes a great talking point when the masses don't know any better!
Why would I move out of Michigan, leave my family, friends, and employees? I guess you "could' say NAFTA created 4 jobs here, I had to re-educate myself, open up a small business and hire 3 employees since '06. So I guess you're right, NAFTA created 4 jobs on the books in Michigan. That said, I don't remember any companies whether they were union or non-union, putting on a 2nd or 3rd shift due to the increase in demand for product made in Michigan from Canada and Mexico. Quite the opposite actually. Is that how they count jobs for NAFTA's footprint? Was that 20 mil number from 93-2000? Anyway FM, you have to be "here" in order to understand.
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