So, on the other thread, I got challenged or put on the spot regarding my statement that I will revisit all your posts. So I'm calling you out directly. Let's do it now. I want an an open honest debate on this topic, not the dishonest one you tried to put forth on mine. Truth be told, while you and even falcon was attacking me as some kind of inventor of redistribution of wealth with my desire to end it, you guys both gave DLG a pass. That in it self proved you never wanted an honest debate but a gotcha moment to to go after me. Her program, a repeat from politicians, redistributes far more wealth than anything i put forth to date. Doing nothing, which by your silence on a plan, will redistribute over 1/2 trillion this decade to unborn children. So lets hear it VC. Options are doing nothing and borrowing from the younger generations, raising taxes on the younger generation, some kind of hybird means testing or my plan to do both means testing and privatization for the younger generation and end the actual robbing of an individuals earned income so they can enjoy what they earned. Perhaps I've missed another option, VC. If I did, post it!
So here is your chance VC. Put fourth your plan. I'm on record, DLG is on record. You put up or shut up your plan going forward. Then we can have an honest debate where we actually debate an idea instead of measuring peckers.
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Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
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Let's bump this up now that VC is hanging low after being spanked throughly in a few threads this past month.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Let's bump it once more since VC has decided to show up after his big leave of absence during tax season, again.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
True, my proposals do involve a certain amount of redistribution of wealth. But I think that's something that will be with us for the forseeable future.
Some politician has come up with a slightly different hybrid plan wherein one would be able to have their money allocated to a limited selection of funds, approved, and presumably insured by, the government. We have to accept the fact that there will still be a tax since funds wiill be needed to provide for those who don't have a "private," government sponsored plan.
Funds will also be required to continue payments to those who have anticipated social security benefits and have been paying social security taxes for years with that expectation. I believe the cutoff point is age 55.
I don't especially object to paying to assist my elders in retirement. I do object to the government mismanaging the funds it collects.
It's time to stop meddling in other countries affairs. It's time to stop funding "green, renewable energy programs that cost more than they're worth. It's time to take a hard look at disability payments. Most of these people seem just as able to work as I am. It's time to require all these do-gooder programs to justify their existence. And it's time to get control of the illegitimacy rate. This is costing us a tremendous amount of money in "programs" to deal with the effects.
Yes, I know I'm illegitimate. But mama got a job and got away from public assistance as soon as she could. When she turned 18 and was able to get a job in a bar, that ended public assistance for us. She could have gotten pregnant again and again and could still be on welfare right now. She could have made it a career. Too many people do because they're allowed to and they're part of a culture that accepts it.
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I heard Jesus He drank wine and I bet we'd get along just fine.
I wish we could. However, as illustrated in your first response to me on the Photos thread, you lack the capacity to keep the posts straight, let alone the facts. Furthermore, when you couldn't address the questions and you and I both know you could not or you would have (in any one of the 8 or 9 posts you made in a row), you launched a series of personal attacks.
Lmao, and now you claim you want an "honest" debate? Sure, pal. You would not know an honest debate if it gave you a bloody nose.
But please, go ahead and maintain the predictable, cheap posturing. Its truly your idea of "honest."
I wish we could. However, as illustrated in your first response to me on the Photos thread, you lack the capacity to keep the posts straight, let alone the facts. Furthermore, when you couldn't address the questions and you and I both know you could not or you would have (in any one of the 8 or 9 posts you made in a row), you launched a series of personal attacks.
Lmao, and now you claim you want an "honest" debate? Sure, pal. You would know an honest debate if it gave you a bloody nose.
But please, go ahead and maintain the predictable, cheap posturing. Its truly your idea of "honest."
Too funny, ducked the question by trying to blame me of you intellectual short comings. Remember it was you lying about my positions regarding retirement. Do i need to go back and
Post the link? I asked you about 8 times why you needed to lie.
It doesn't matter VC, you have proven yourself right here as someone incapable of ideas and thoughts. I'm proud to have exposed you to the forum.
Have a good day! You certainly made mine!
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Too funny, ducked the question by trying to blame me of you intellectual short comings. Remember it was you lying about my positions regarding retirement. Do i need to go back and
Post the link? I asked you about 8 times why you needed to lie.
It doesn't matter VC, you have proven yourself right here as someone incapable of ideas and thoughts. I'm proud to have exposed you to the forum.
You're the one who is refusing to post your plan because you're afraid of me? Too funny. I love it!
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
I watched a great little youtube clip the other day on gun control and gay marriage .... they're quite funny, anyway at one point
the liberal female says " sometimes you have to die for your beliefs"
conservative man "those aren't my beliefs, they're YOUR beliefs"
long pause
liberal female " sometimes you have to die for my beliefs"
that's wealth redistribuition right there .... its only good and applicable to people making more money than you. DLG .... you make more money than me, do you mind sending me a check to help balance things out a bit? You're "wealthier" than me ... therefore YOU owe me something
VC, what's your plan for entittlements?
