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Old 12-30-2010, 12:02 PM   #1
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Ran across this gem in email....

http://townhall.com/columnists/PatBu...ure/page/full/

Pat is 100% correct....you can't teach a kid who will not learn.
I have a sister-in-law teaching a NYC public high-school class and she has all she can do to keep the kids from just leaving the classroom or assaulting either her or each other. Weve spent considerably more on Education in this country than the last few wars combined...how come the kiddees are still little illiterate morons ?
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Old 12-30-2010, 01:47 PM   #2
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Single parent households certainly don't help the situation...

Low expectations amongst the poor/lower class/uneducated also doesn't help.


In many areas you're EXPECTED to graduate from college, so it goes without saying you're EXPECTED to graduate from HS, can you imagine a place where whether you graduate from hs or not doesn't really matter?

Teen moms certainly doesn't help either. Ie uneducated parents are more likely to have uneducated children, and many teen moms will never go on to grad from hs or college...
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Old 12-30-2010, 03:43 PM   #3
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Single parent households certainly don't help the situation...

Low expectations amongst the poor/lower class/uneducated also doesn't help.


In many areas you're EXPECTED to graduate from college, so it goes without saying you're EXPECTED to graduate from HS, can you imagine a place where whether you graduate from hs or not doesn't really matter?

Teen moms certainly doesn't help either. Ie uneducated parents are more likely to have uneducated children, and many teen moms will never go on to grad from hs or college...
If all this stuff could be corrected, many of our problems would evaporate. We'd have higher productivity in the workplace along with better attendance and more realistic expectations about what a job should and should not provide. We'd have lower crime, fewer gangs, and higher standards of living across the board.
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Old 12-30-2010, 06:57 PM   #4
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Just remember, LBJ did what no other racist group or law could ever do to the black family. LBJ destroyed the black family with welfare programs and are well on the way to destroying every other family of any race. When you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. The worst thing of it all. Despite having mounds and mounds of documentation and proof all these liberal programs are doing more harm, we can't end them. It's always, we need more funding.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:50 AM   #5
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Single parent households certainly don't help the situation...

Low expectations amongst the poor/lower class/uneducated also doesn't help.


In many areas you're EXPECTED to graduate from college, so it goes without saying you're EXPECTED to graduate from HS, can you imagine a place where whether you graduate from hs or not doesn't really matter?

Teen moms certainly doesn't help either. Ie uneducated parents are more likely to have uneducated children, and many teen moms will never go on to grad from hs or college...
There's a lot of truth in what you say, but a lot of these moms are not teens. We have allowed a certain segment of the population to make a career out of being welfare moms.

It doesn't have to be that way. My mother was only 15 when I was born, and yes, we received food stamps, subsidized housing, and subsidized day care at first. When my mother asked the court to emancipate her so she could get a full-time job, the judge made us both wards of the court so she could get assistance and then referred her to a friend who gave her a job as a waitress.

As soon as she turned 18, she got a job as a waitress in a bar, (The tips are waaaay better in a bar.) and we no longer needed any subsidies. All the time I was growing up, she worked six days a week from 6PM until about 2AM. But she supervised my school performance like a mother tiger. There was no question that I would do well. She gave lavish praise for my successes, but I knew she would not hesitate to whip my little tail if I did not live up to her expectations for me.

We lived in a lower socio-economic area. For the vast majority of the kids I knew, their parents did not really care whether they did any homework or whether they learned anything in school or not. There is a culture there with many members where women make a career of living on welfare and pass this on to the next generation. And the males move from female to female, impregnating them and living off their latest baby-momma's welfare check supplemented by a little drug dealing and petty theft.

I'll wager that most of you have not experienced this culture while growing up, but it exists and it is dragging our society down in many ways.

By the way, if you read the article, I will allow myself for purposes of this thread only, to be classified as ***anese-American, but don't make a habit of it.
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I'm with FM on this one....these 'ills' facing the 'modern world' can all be traced back to the 'normalization' and acceptance of bad behavior by the left...and the institutionalization of their idea of a cure for it. They are truly the destroyers, all 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse rolled up into each one of their hollow
self-righteous greedy little hearts and empty heads.
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LOL - I think the important thing to note in that article is that it's a cultural thing. It's time to quit blaming the schools, and, by the way, pumping more and more money into the schools to fix a problem that is not located in the schools.

It's time to make some serious changes not just in practice, but in attitude. The solutions are NOT going to be politically correct.
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Old 01-03-2011, 10:36 AM   #9
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LOL - I think the important thing to note in that article is that it's a cultural thing. It's time to quit blaming the schools, and, by the way, pumping more and more money into the schools to fix a problem that is not located in the schools.

It's time to make some serious changes not just in practice, but in attitude. The solutions are NOT going to be politically correct.
you are SO right, DLG....the problems are at home, where parents refuse to participate in their childrens' education, and where parents actively work against the authority of the teachers, and where parents don't even take the interest to come to parent/teacher meetings. This parasitic segment of society brings down the rest of it becuase there are those who would love to learn, if not for their boorish, soon-to-be-collecting-welfare classmates. The conduct problem in classrooms borders on (and often crosses over to ) criminal behavior,and for teachers to retain their sanity and keep their jobs, they MUST NOT CARE what happens to the little animals in their charge. We pour hundreds of billions into the public school system...why is it that teachers have to routinely dip into their own pockets for pencils, copier paper, chalk....these most rudimentary of educational tools don't exist in schools...we have teachers teaching web design in classes where the PC's are all non-functional, it's beyond ridiculous.
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