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Old 12-08-2010, 05:17 PM   #1
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Default Moral or Immoral Government (Phil, this was timely)

A MINORITY VIEW
BY WALTER WILLIAMS
RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2010
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Moral or Immoral Government
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*********** Immorality in government lies at the heart of our nation's problems. Deficits, debt and runaway government are merely symptoms. What's moral and immoral conduct can be complicated, but needlessly so. I keep things simple and you tell me where I go wrong.
*********** My initial assumption is that we each own ourselves. I am my private property and you are yours. If we accept the notion that people own themselves, then it's easy to discover what forms of conduct are moral and immoral. Immoral acts are those that violate self-ownership. Murder, rape, assault and slavery are immoral because those acts violate private property. So is theft, broadly defined as taking the rightful property of one person and giving it to another.
*********** If it is your belief that people do not belong to themselves, they are in whole or in part the property of the U.S. Congress, or people are owned by God, who has placed the U.S. Congress in charge of managing them, then all of my observations are simply nonsense.
*********** Let's look at some congressional actions in light of self-ownership. Do farmers and businessmen have a right to congressional handouts? Does a person have a right to congressional handouts for housing, food and medical care?
*********** First, let's ask: Where does Congress get handout money? One thing for sure, it's not from the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus nor is it congressmen reaching into their own pockets. The only way for Congress to give one American one dollar is to first, through the tax code, take that dollar from some other American. It must forcibly use one American to serve another American. Forcibly using one person to serve another is one way to describe slavery. As such, it violates self-ownership.
*********** Government immorality isn't restricted only to forcing one person to serve another. Some regulations such as forcing motorists to wear seatbelts violate self-ownership. If one owns himself, he has the right to take chances with his own life. Some people argue that if you're not wearing a seatbelt, have an accident and become a vegetable, you'll become a burden on society. That's not a problem of liberty and self-ownership. It's a problem of socialism where through the tax code one person is forcibly used to care for another.
*********** These examples are among thousands of government actions that violate the principles of self-ownership. Some might argue that Congress forcing us to help one another and forcing us to take care of ourselves are good ideas. But my question to you is: When congressmen and presidents take their oaths of office, is that oath to uphold and defend good ideas or the U.S. Constitution?
*********** When the principles of self-ownership are taken into account, two-thirds to three-quarters of what Congress does violate those principles to one degree or another as well as the Constitution to which they've sworn to uphold and defend. In 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 to assist some French refugees, James Madison, the father of our Constitution, stood on the floor of the House to object, saying, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." Did James Madison miss something in the Constitution?
*********** You might answer, "He forgot the general welfare clause." No, he had that covered, saying, "If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one."
*********** If we accept the value of self-ownership, it is clear that most of what Congress does is clearly immoral. If this is bothersome, there are two ways around my argument. The first is to deny the implications of self-ownership. The second is to ask, as Speaker Nancy Pelosi did when asked about the constitutionality of Obamacare, "Are you serious? Are you serious?"
*********** Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:43 PM   #2
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The only way for Congress to give one American one dollar is to first, through the tax code, take that dollar from some other American. It must forcibly use one American to serve another American. Forcibly using one person to serve another is one way to describe slavery. As such, it violates self-ownership.
Right on the money.
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Old 12-08-2010, 09:16 PM   #3
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Another Great Article by Williams and factual to a T! It makes me relate to that by Nature’s Law it is the survival of the fittest or as I was told Gandhi stated Forcing one’s will upon another is Abuse. Under today’s laws for abuse that will get the common man arrested, prosecuted and probably sentenced. For the Government it is called for the betterment of Society. Really who are they kidding?
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:21 PM   #4
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Paying in taxes is a way of life.. Whether I like it or not doesn't matter as the government does not run on air. It may seem like a lot of hot air coming out of there with out doubt though.
I do have moral beliefs believe it or not though. The fact is no one forces me to live in this country or niether does anyone force you to. We have a choice to live here or take all the steps to move out, correct? We have the right to disagree as well where in some countries disagreeing could cost you your life. There is still some good things in this country whether or not we can agree with what we see as good may vary among us.. That is our right as well. I do however take ownership for everything I do though. Some of us are just proud of the ground we walk on I guess..
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:16 PM   #5
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Paying in taxes is a way of life.. Whether I like it or not doesn't matter as the government does not run on air. It may seem like a lot of hot air coming out of there with out doubt though.
Right over your head. There are taxes to keep the federal government running to cover the mandated constitutional requirements. Then there is the 2/3rds of the federal budget that violates liberty in this country and forces one person to work for the benefit of another. To bad you and way too many people in this country are addicted to slavery.
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I do have moral beliefs believe it or not though.
Really, is slavery moral in your book?
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The fact is no one forces me to live in this country or niether does anyone force you to. We have a choice to live here or take all the steps to move out, correct?
Cut with the straw man. We have something called the Constituion and the Bill of Rights. Why don't I have a right to liberty? Why do you have a right to my liberty?
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We have the right to disagree as well where in some countries disagreeing could cost you your life. There is still some good things in this country whether or not we can agree with what we see as good may vary among us..
Stop with the strw lady already. WTF does this statement have to do with forcing one person to work for the benifit of another?
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I do however take ownership for everything I do though.
and my property as well. I might add, you brag about it too. To bad you feel the need to hide behind Uncle Sam and his guns instead of being brave enough to come to me with your hand out directly. Then again, Uncle Sam willingly gives you my money.
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