I have twice seen a bit of a pseudo documentary/pseudo expose (shades of Dan Rather vibrations) on the Remington 700. To take the show at face value, it would have it that the Remington 700 has been unsafe and readily fires when loaded and on safety since the mid-1960; Remington has known about this fault and has not redesigned their trigger to overcome this problem; and they have introduced the 10 rules of firearm safety to cope with this known shortcoming.
I'm skeptical.
Does anyone know what this is all about? Is there some basis in fact? Is this just an attack of innuendo and unsubstantiated claims, half truths with the key facts hidden, relying upon the general public's ignorance of guns? I own a Remington 700 ADL and I've never had any trouble with it. I've never heard of another who has had a problem with a Remington 700 firing while on safety. But guns do malfunctions -- and there is always operator error!!! Guns malfunction? Sure, my Ithica Model 37 failed to cycle shells on one hunt years ago. I took it to the gun smith, he fixed something, and there after no problem. I think it was some sort of worn part. But what about others with guns they never clean? People who are careless and don't know how to activate the safety? Not possible, no one is that stupid? Don't bet on it.
I don't know about that gun however first thing I was taught in gun safety and the first thing I teach anyone regarding gun safety is: The safety, it's a mechanical device that can and does fail!
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i own 19 model 721, 722 and 700 Remington rifles. Over the years i have owned a few dozen more. Never had one of those guns fire when it was not supposed to fire. The problem comes when folks who are about as mechanically inclined as a chimp attempt to adjust Remington triggers.
CNBC runs their sensational anti-Remington "documentary" every day. There is a motive here: The ultra-liberal blissninnies in the media are trying to force congress to pass legislation putting firearm safety under the control of the Consumer Products Safety Commission.
Presently there is a federal law that exempts firearms from regulation by the CPSC. There is a media push for the lame duck Democrats to pass this sorry legislation to placate the anti-gun movement. The gun hating Obama would sign such legislation into law.
Like falcon....I have never had any issues with Rems. As one who has spent many hours at both the reloading bench and at the range, not one time over the years has there been a mishap. I too would have to assume that the fault lies with inexperience adjusting the trigger pulls. Over the course of quite a few years I have built a few hundred Long Guns some my own creations and the majority are recreations of originals from both the F&I and Revolutionary War eras. The only time when a misfire occurs is when the triggers are set too soft and a simple jar of the gun will allow the hammer to drop. A simular jar occurs when a round is racked into or out of the chamber and the bolt is turned up or down. With all this being said, I freely admit that Iam always aware of the potenial danger involved and I load and unload in a safe direction......outdoors, away from people and pointed at the ground.
Remington did a response video to this, they were unable to replicate the failures except on the guns that had the triggers modifed. There is nothing wrong with their guns. Its just another case of shifting the blame so you dont look like a dumbass and the biased media picked it up and ran with it.
I believe Remington's response video is on their web page. Haven't had time to view it yet. I've got four 700's and have never had an issue. I also suspect modifications by gun owners who didn't know what they were doing and/or mishandling.
Here's a link to a video and a written response...
Ive got a safe full of 700's and never a prob after literally thousands of rounds. The triggers have been adjusted on all of them by the same gunsmith.
Always be leery of anything NBC showing anything on guns.. theres always an alterior motive...
When my husband taught me to shoot, he emphasized that a gun is a mechanical device and any mechical device may malfunction. Because of that, the first and most important rule is to always have the barrel pointed in a safe direction. We have other rules, but that is Number One.
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Well, the posts so far suggest that the CNBC "expose" is a crude propaganda piece. I expected this, but wanted to check. It is really very vile. It says that Cabela's has received thousands of complaints (presumably about Remington 700s firing while on safety! they wouldn't be so duplicitous to throw that number out there disingenuously -- that is, Cabela's gets 1000s of complaints including complaints about waders that leak, fishing lines that break, clothes that lose buttons, and what have you -- knowing the information will be mistakenly construed to mean 1000s of complaints about Remington 700s?!!!).
Well, we can only play the ball after it is volleyed to us. If there is some attempt to severely restrict gun useage based on consumer safety regulation . . . my guess would be this could ultimately be challenged under the second amendment, challenging the regulation is merely a disguised end-around to circumvent the second amendment. And do you suppose those folks who vote on this wouldn't be held accountable for such legislation?
Remington unsafe documentary?
