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Old 11-10-2010, 04:32 AM   #1
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Default Thank you Imam Bush for creating muslim theocracy in Iraq

Wow, GW, you must be so proud. You successfully replaced a secular government in Iraq which suppressed Muslim fundamentalism with a schizmed government that is increasingly Islamic.

As a side note, it looks as if Christainity which has been tolerated in Iraq for hundreds of years will be completely eradicated. That's right, Saddam let the Christian minorities alone.... now they are slated for extermination.

The death of Christianity in Iraq has come about as a direct result of our meddling in that country.

Great work!

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terro...lew-of-attacks
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:14 AM   #2
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Wow, GW, you must be so proud. You successfully replaced a secular government in Iraq which suppressed Muslim fundamentalism with a schizmed government that is increasingly Islamic.

As a side note, it looks as if Christainity which has been tolerated in Iraq for hundreds of years will be completely eradicated. That's right, Saddam let the Christian minorities alone.... now they are slated for extermination.

The death of Christianity in Iraq has come about as a direct result of our meddling in that country.

Great work!

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terro...lew-of-attacks

While you at it HD, thank Bush you're butt is safe!
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:34 AM   #3
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Are you suggesting that we should have stayed and instated a government for them? Bush's objective was to take out Sadam (a cruel dictator), and to seek the WMDs that the world suspected Sadam had (as well as the WMDs he used on the Kurds and Iranians). Iraq governs itself and votes in those they choose.

If Bush had insisted on creating Iraq a government, Bush would be called a dictator, etc. If he allows the people to develop their own government, he is guilty of building a Islamic theocracy?

Personally, I do not like any Islamic Theocracy to govern, but it is not my choice.


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Are you suggesting that we should have just left Sadam alone? Both situations is a, "glass half full half empty"
scenario. The world had Iraq under the glass, could we have let the U.N. ignore the U.N violations???? Who knows. I have no faith in the U.N..
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:53 AM   #5
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Wow, GW, you must be so proud. You successfully replaced a secular government in Iraq which suppressed Muslim fundamentalism with a schizmed government that is increasingly Islamic.

As a side note, it looks as if Christainity which has been tolerated in Iraq for hundreds of years will be completely eradicated. That's right, Saddam let the Christian minorities alone.... now they are slated for extermination.

The death of Christianity in Iraq has come about as a direct result of our meddling in that country.

Great work!

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terro...lew-of-attacks
Well, you're sure smarter than anyone else if you've come to that conclusion from just one Christian Science Monitor article.

Just a question - do you have any other cites other than the article about the attack and its consequences to support your conclusion otherwise?

It's just too bad that you armchair commandos have so little understanding of the complex dynamics at work in such places as Iraq that you'll come up with such wild and SIMPLISTIC claims.

For what it's worth, my Chaldean Christian interpreter was decidedly anti-Saddam. His father and three brothers were "adopted" by the Mukhabarat, never to be seen again. That wasn't all that uncommon to hear over there. Without exception, the only people I found in Iraq who LIKED Saddam were Sunnis, and they generally very much disliked us for messing up the great gig they had going at the expense of every other minority in Iraq (you DO know the difference between Sunni and Shia, don't you? - no fair running off to wikipedia).

Don't sweat it. Plop back down in that LA-Z-BOY, gather up the remote, and watch those DVDs of your kids' hockey games. Feel free to thank the almighty that they don't have to grow up in a place like Iraq, or Iran, or Lebanon. Great Americans in my former line of work help to ensure that. You're welcome.
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Old 11-14-2010, 03:59 PM   #6
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Karzai was in exile in Iran when Saddam was in power. Karzai is very close to the Iranian power structure including Ahmadinejad. Those two countrues will become a greater Islamic paradise ruled by the Shia.

When Saddam was in power Iraq was a secular country. Tariq Aziz, the former Iraqi foreign minister, is a Chaldean Christian. Since the invasion of Iraq, Christians have been systematically murdered by the Shiites, the Sunnis and the Kurds.

Yep, we have all those fine national politicians in DC who wear their Christian faith on their shoulders: I have not heard one of them condemn the murder of Christians in Iraq. Oil is
such a powerful thing.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...-attacked.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101101/wl_afp/iraqunrest

http://www.catholic.org/internationa...y.php?id=34079

http://www.worthynews.com/7626-news-...killed-in-iraq

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Old 11-15-2010, 03:37 PM   #7
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When Saddam was in power Iraq was a secular country. Tariq Aziz, the former Iraqi foreign minister, is a Chaldean Christian. Since the invasion of Iraq, Christians have been systematically murdered by the Shiites, the Sunnis and the Kurds.
If "secular" means "the absence of open persecution" to you, then yes - you are correct. Saddam thrived on a "secular" population where ethnic, religious, and tribal loyalties were secondary to the Baath Party. If you couldn't hold Saddam higher than those other loyalties, then you were subject to systematic state murder.

It was a great system. It kept the people of Iraq under his thumb. But that's the stuff the MM doesn't want you to read about, because it's always "all about oil." Like, that's sure been a profitable venture.
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