Beat Whitey night.

[Knightia]

I agree Cal= well said.

And when it comes to such laws & my family- i know what message it sends me.

Dont think it matters much whos in power/prez/congress on that issue either( even if someagreed/no ones going to step up to change it ). Or that we( some of us ) think its a useless, stupid, unfair, unneeded law- that divides further.

Nobody should be more important as a victim than another simply because of their race, religion, group, etc.

Yep - by making some ppl more important or speical then others- other ppl are degraded/downgraded .

[bergall]

so then, why are we tolerating the special treatment special interest groups are getting legislatively ? Certainly, you can kick the crap out of a member of one of these 'protected groups' as long as you don't call him a name to make him feel bad......

[Knightia]

so then, why are we tolerating the special treatment special interest groups are getting legislatively ?

Not sure who is included when you say we.

Poltices are involed( possible votes) With possible backlashs :0 to such as being labled anti black, anti gay- racist hater homophobe etc for the general public etc.]

Ppl in general are very sensitive to that kinda thing in this state i have noticed.

But "they'( including the fed) had to blackmale the state i understand to pass - the federal mandated/ unpayed for by them-MLK holiday-( wy Az etc where a few hold outs- course that got us labeled as racists etc

Certainly, you can kick the crap out of a member of one of these 'protected groups' as long as you don't call him a name to make him feel bad......

i understand that to be a key factor in these things.

But im pretty sure theres ways over , under, around & threw all that- or just pretending nothing was said & if it was said then theres reasons to ignore it all ( or not)- depending on what group is involved.

I have seen ppl claim many things on the sheperd case that happend here- that as far as i know some never took place or happened- other then in someones mind or in the heart tugging, emotion miniputaling propaganda film i have viewed to further such causes.


Or deals like..
Fes up boy- you can either sit in prison for many yrs or we will take you to the gallows poles & kill you.

[bergall]

Well, the bed's made...now we sleep with the crumbs.
I wonder if we can get any cracka' hate-crime legislation passed ? Then everyone would be covered and we'd all be equal again.....

[Knightia]

Or they could drop all the hate crime laws & use the laws that already existed/exist & apply to everyone & that everyone is covered under.

Certainly, you can kick the crap out of a member of one of these 'protected groups' as long as you don't call him a name to make him feel bad......

Dont ppl who are prohate crime laws see that these things separate ppl into groups & divides us.

Ohh - ohh feelings( barba stristan tunes stuck in my head)- did they not as childen ever hear the sayings - sticks ^& stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

( words are just words- they are only as important as ppl make them to be)
Actions always speak louder then words.

[bergall]

[b][color="Black"]Or they could drop all the hate crime laws & use the laws that already existed/exist & apply to everyone & that everyone is covered under.[\Color][\B]

nobody's gonna repeal existing hate crime laws...thats why I suggested the inclusion of a hate crime law to protect white folks...it's much more doable than fighting every little entitled group for their own hate crime legislation...


Dont ppl who are prohate crime laws see that these things separate ppl into groups & divides us.

That's 100% true...these people are not about uniting us...their own self-interest is what's important to them.


Ohh - ohh feelings( barba stristan tunes stuck in my head)- did they not as childen ever hear the sayings - sticks ^& stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

YIKES ! You called the creature by it's name ! and while words will never hurt you, they might get you an additional 3 to 5 years, if they're the right ones !


( words are just words- they are only as important as ppl make them to be). Actions always speak louder then words.

The problem with that, is that hate crime legislation depends on large degree, upon what you say during the attack. If you just walk up to some scumbag and crack his head with a monkey-wrench, it's an assault. Maybe attempted murder. But if you take that same guy...and that same monkey-wrench....and before you hit him you say "You filthy elbow ! I hate your kind and we need to get rid of em all so I'm starting with you !" and THEN you crack him...you're a hate crime offender and subject to the 'enhanced' penalties reserved for those breaking the 'elbow protection' laws.

[Aught Six]

Bergall, you act as though the people in this forum can reverse public and private racism overnight. It it were that simple, it would've happened already. In reality, while there may be a silent majority out there simmering at open displays of racism and violence, most people simply aren't willing to turn themselves into political martyrs.

You should go protest outside of the White House, the Capitol, or the Supreme Court and let us know how well it goes for you.

[bergall]

Originally Posted by Aught Six

Bergall, you act as though the people in this forum can reverse public and private racism overnight. It it were that simple, it would've happened already. In reality, while there may be a silent majority out there simmering at open displays of racism and violence, most people simply aren't willing to turn themselves into political martyrs.

You should go protest outside of the White House, the Capitol, or the Supreme Court and let us know how well it goes for you.

Don't know where you got that idiotic idea. My suggestion is that racism is here to stay, rather than the stupidity you are suggesting
as a provocation. As far as protesting anywhere, well, I don't bother with that kind'a crap...that's for activists. I'm not an activist...as a matter of fact, I really do not care if there's racism in this country or not. I just don't wanna be told that the racism I see in front of my face is not racism...that I'm mistaken....and then call Black Panther scumbags anything other than what they are, separatists and racists and in many cases, criminals. Maybe YOU should go protest some stupidity or other...maybe you'll be lucky enough to find out if the police are still using wood nightsticks or if they've switched over to the new polymer models ?


Basically, my suggestion is more along the lines "While you're beating the snot outta somebody, keep your mouth shut so nobody knows your motivations but you and maybe the guy youre beating".
And actually, to the best of my knowledge, the only thing I've EVER agreed to, is that anything that serves to reward or punish people which is based on race, or anything else, is divisive and corrupt, and subjects citizens to prejudicial treatment. Seems the left is the source of that arrogant sewage....

[vc1111]

Doe Dumper:

Imagine the media coverage had it been beat brotha night...

While your point is valid, these types of events pale in comparison with the other more vile racism that is taking place.

One of the worst examples I've seen in a long time took place on CNN a few days ago. It was a Left vs Right commentary on the recent rally put together by Glen Beck.

One person, a white female who said she attended the rally, stated that she felt the values and ideas put forth at the rally were that of unity and other wholesome ideas to which all Americans could and should relate.

Here lefty counterpart dismissed the entire event by simply asking something to the effect: "How can you give credence to an event attended by thousands of white people?"

Today being white, at least according to certain political sectors of our society, is supposedly somehow an indication of being racist and guilty by default.

How did we get to such a silly place in American history? Why is it now somehow hip to hate and openly disparage white people?

[bergall]

Originally Posted by vc1111

Doe Dumper:

While your point is valid, these types of events pale in comparison with the other more vile racism that is taking place.

One of the worst examples I've seen in a long time took place on CNN a few days ago. It was a Left vs Right commentary on the recent rally put together by Glen Beck.

One person, a white female who said she attended the rally, stated that she felt the values and ideas put forth at the rally were that of unity and other wholesome ideas to which all Americans could and should relate.

Here lefty counterpart dismissed the entire event by simply asking something to the effect: "How can you give credence to an event attended by thousands of white people?"

Today being white, at least according to certain political sectors of our society, is supposedly somehow an indication of being racist and guilty by default.

How did we get to such a silly place in American history? Why is it now somehow hip to hate and openly disparage white people?

For what it's worth, my racist comment: Animals can smell fear.
When white people stopped standing up for themselves, and started to 'push' the acceptability of 'black subculture', it opened the gates to this sort of garbage. I no longer believe the 'counterculture' is seeking equality for themselves and all other citizens regardless of race, creed, sexual orientation or whatever other bulls**t subclassifications we can dream up for our citizens.
The subculture seeks dominion, not equality. To achieve dominion, the target of their agression must be first invalidated. We are in the 'invalidation phase' of this effort. We already see males denigrated by the liberal left women's groups, and now we see whites being minimalized, and this by a minority of the total population with the willing compliance of the left media types.
There are certain constants in human political behavior. The first step towards genocide is the polarization of society. The second step is to identify a portion of the society as being responsible for it's ills. We've passed the first tenet and are approaching the 2nd.
Did you get your Korean M1 thru CMP yet ?