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Old 08-24-2010, 10:31 AM   #21
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No one was burned or killed at this site on 9/11. If it were three blocks away, would it still be "at Ground Zero?" How about five blocks away? How far away does it have to be to not be "at Ground Zero?"

Anywhere that is not in the US IMO. GTFO
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:52 AM   #22
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Anywhere that is not in the US IMO. GTFO
Does that make the closest existing mosque the new "Ground Zero Mosque?"

Weak-minded chicken hawks are what's wrong with this country. When I served in the Army, I pledged to defend the Constitution of the United States, not just the parts I cared about on that particular day.
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:57 AM   #23
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No one was burned or killed at this site on 9/11. If it were three blocks away, would it still be "at Ground Zero?" How about five blocks away? How far away does it have to be to not be "at Ground Zero?"

Right smack in the middle of the freaking desert.
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:00 PM   #24
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Right smack in the middle of the freaking desert.
I'm not sure if you're actually a reverend or not, but if you feel that muslims should be confined to the desert to worship you're one of the most hypocritical, ignorant, and worthless men I've ever encountered.

I gotta think, if there is a God, that he has special plans for a close minded, hateful bigot like yourself.
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:09 PM   #25
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Weak-minded chicken hawks are what's wrong with this country. When I served in the Army, I pledged to defend the Constitution of the United States, not just the parts I cared about on that particular day.
The First Amendment has always been interpreted by the Courts to allow reasonable time, place and manner restrictions. I submit that the building of the Mosque so close to ground zero is an incitement and both the site, and the name "Cordoba House," have been chosen for the purpose of "marking their turf." It seems to me that such a provocation can reasonably be restricted to other more suitable locations.

Would you take so kindly to a shrine to Emperor Hirohito adjacent to Pearl Harbor? Would you expect the crew of the Enola Gay to be honored in Hiroshima? Whose memory should be heralded at Thermopoli? The 300, or the Persians?

I find it interesting that the GZ Mosque is the first time in my memory that liberals have urged the strict enforcement of the First Amendment protections for the "freedom of religion". Since you make an apparently impassioned defense of the Constitution, I'm curious... If the President ordered you, while you served in the Army, to kick down doors to confiscate the firearms of otherwise law abiding U.S. citizens, what would you have done?
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Olberman???? Great non bias source. LMAO. Next you will be quoteing Farrakhan as a credible, non-bias source on Christianity.
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Old 08-24-2010, 01:02 PM   #27
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Olberman???? Great non bias source. LMAO. Next you will be quoteing Farrakhan as a credible, non-bias source on Christianity.
What facts in the video, which I'm sure you watched, do you dispute?
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Old 08-24-2010, 01:05 PM   #28
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The First Amendment has always been interpreted by the Courts to allow reasonable time, place and manner restrictions. I submit that the building of the Mosque so close to ground zero is an incitement and both the site, and the name "Cordoba House," have been chosen for the purpose of "marking their turf." It seems to me that such a provocation can reasonably be restricted to other more suitable locations.

Would you take so kindly to a shrine to Emperor Hirohito adjacent to Pearl Harbor? Would you expect the crew of the Enola Gay to be honored in Hiroshima? Whose memory should be heralded at Thermopoli? The 300, or the Persians?

I find it interesting that the GZ Mosque is the first time in my memory that liberals have urged the strict enforcement of the First Amendment protections for the "freedom of religion". Since you make an apparently impassioned defense of the Constitution, I'm curious... If the President ordered you, while you served in the Army, to kick down doors to confiscate the firearms of otherwise law abiding U.S. citizens, what would you have done?
The name was changed to Park 51 to ease those concerns, those examples you listed are not religions, and that hypothetical scenario is so unrelated to the discussion that I assume it was meant for another thread.
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Old 08-24-2010, 01:11 PM   #29
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There is no Ground Zero Mosque. It is a lie designed to enrage you and gain your support. The Islamic Cultural Center you keep calling the Ground Zero Mosque is not at Ground Zero.

There is a Shinto Shrine near Pearl Harbor. I'm OK with it.

Soldiers are not required to follow unlawful orders. In fact, they can be criminally prosecuted if they do. They teach you that in your first week of Basic Training. Do you really think this type of order is something the President is likely to give or is it just the scariest thing you could think of?
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The Islamic Cultural Center you keep calling the Ground Zero Mosque is not at Ground Zero.
Ground Zero is the point of impact. Parts of at least one of the planes impacted the vacant buildings that are at the site proposed for the "Cultural Center", which is planned to contain a mosque. Simply put, you are wrong on both counts. They do indeed plan to put a mosque at Ground Zero.

My question, again, is why? There are plenty of mosques in NY, it's not a convenient location for the muslim community in NY, and it's obviously not going to bridge anything--it's a point of contention. So why insist on putting it there? The answer is obvious.
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