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Old 08-12-2010, 01:48 AM   #1
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I just saw AC reporting (actually mocking) the idea that there could be something as crazy and hard to believe as pregnant women coming to the US today to have their babies,then whisk the babies away, only to later have them return later as terrorists.

It sounds nuts, crazy...the rantings of anti-immigrants and likely racist lunatics. If you believe this, I ask "Really?" Instead of doing any investigative reporting, the big media will try to paint this argument like many others as racist ravings.

It doesn't just affect the US. Begin born in the US makes person a US citizen, automatically. In Canada, non-Canadian citizen parents are granted citizenship too. (this was the case 3 yrs ago, it may have changed). They'll state that it just doesn't happen.

The sad part is that Denmark, Netherlands, France, Germany (and other countries?) have and are experiencing exactly this phenomena. Who's going to report that?

Are the returning people going to be wearing explosive belts and come through the airport gate to their "home" country screaming "Allah Akubar!"? I doubt it. And that's the point the naysayers will make.

Will these people return to as functional citizens, ready to integrate into the pluralistic craziness that is normal to us? That's where the naysayers argument will hit a snag.

If the realities of the past 10-20yrs in western Europe are an example; signs indicate that there will be a surprisingly large number who will not fit in to the general society of their passport nationality.

One of the big problems, in parts of western Europe, is that middle eastern families send their children back to [the old country] to live /visit with family. If the parents are asked about schooling, the father will answer that his child is going to a school that the family thinks is appropriate (this most often means a madrassa where the children learn to recite the Koran and little else) Daughters are the best for this...they return married, to Denmark or Netherlands, with husbands in tow. Hubby doesn't want is wife to be polluted by contact (includes speaking to infidels or non-muslims-usually the returnees can't speak the language of their passport nationality) because it's against Islam and/or their culture. They have kids, and the cycle repeats itself...

If the issue is appreciation of diversity...what is the limit of tolerance of those who are proud of their intolerance, and announce their goal of practicing intolerance? So many supposedly enlightened libs will kowtow to one brand of intolerance when it is socially & politically expedient. We've seen this nutsy crazy social engineering idea proposed and enacted before...last time they waved a red flag with swastika in the middle. This time they're waving a green flag.

AC is wrong for mocking Gomhert on this. Not everyone who heard Paul Revere believed or understood his message either, on that fateful night.
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:14 AM   #2
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i watched most of the debate on the so called "terror babies".

IMO: This whole "terror baby" thing is blown out or proportion. Methinks that breeding babies to attack the US 20 years hence is not practical: Any Islamic terrorist who is not on a no fly list can come into the US from Europe on a European passport without a visa.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:09 AM   #3
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As a means of direct attack, you're right. As a means of increasing presence (numbers) it is working, a very slow process, to be sure, but it is working.

Look past the sound-bite, headline grabbing alarmism, and there is a real threat. It starts with asking for small concessions like separate break rooms for muslims working in large factories, allowing imams to adjudicate family legal matters according to sharia instead of the established law, covering up or removing symbols of religions other than islam in muslim neighborhoods, etc.

All of these examples have happened here, these and many more have occurred elsewhere. Keep granting these innocent requests, and run things forward 20-30yrs. What'll you get?

A large number of people waving signs & wearing t-shirts with sayings like "2045 and we take over", "the islamic republic of [insert country] It will come". Crazy? Impossible?

Go to Denmark and then ask if it's so crazy. Read about Lebanon and see how a Christian nation became dominated & destroyed by muslims.
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