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Old 08-06-2010, 05:20 PM   #1
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what is the difference??

Off the top of my head I'd say that simply, in a republic, the majority rule.
In a democracy that power is spread among all groups based upon their percentage of the population...and therefore "representation" in gov.


Is that even close???
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Old 08-06-2010, 05:31 PM   #2
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I think currently we are living under the Obama Regime!
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Old 08-06-2010, 05:59 PM   #3
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In a democracy, majority rules no matter what. The minority has absolutely no protection from the ruling majority and become subjects of the state.

In a republic, the law (constitution) rules and government is limited by law and is suppose to keep the majority in check and protect the rights of all people, not just the majority.

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In a republic, which we are, groups of people are represented by an individual. These representatives then meet in a central place, congress in our case.

How the terms fit together:

A republic: groups that are represented.

A democratic republic: we determine who will represent us through a democratic process called voting. That is not the only way of choosing representatives, but it is the way we do it.

Congress (the definition of) a formal meeting of representatives to discuss something.

So we vote (democratic) for our representatives (republic), they then meet in congress (meeting place) where they proceed to mess things up

This is why our Pledge of Alegiance includes the following line:

"I pledge alegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands..."

I love saying to an uninformed liberal (is that redundant?) that we have a republican government and watch them flip out
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Old 08-08-2010, 04:18 AM   #5
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A democracy works like this....

A man is caught committing a crime by a group of people. The group decides they will hang the person because most of them think it's the right thing to do.

A republic works like this....

A man is caught committing a crime by a group of people. The group may want to hang him but the sheriff come in and says no... this man will go to trial. We have laws we follow.
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The group may want to hang him but the sheriff come in and says no... this man will go to trial. We have laws we follow.
Correct. And that sheriff gets voted in to office by "the group." So if "the group" is not happy with they way the sheriff is doing things, "the group" can vote for a new/different sheriff.

This is how you end up with "earmarks," "pork," etc., elected officials using taxpayer money to bribe the the voters to re-elect the official.
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accurate this definition is........http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/Am...ts/demrep.html
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A democracy works like this....

A man is caught committing a crime by a group of people. The group decides they will hang the person because most of them think it's the right thing to do.

A republic works like this....

A man is caught committing a crime by a group of people. The group may want to hang him but the sheriff come in and says no... this man will go to trial. We have laws we follow.
But sometimes it just dosnt seem to work out that way ( read a offical document once saying the sheriff didnt know the people who hung these 2 killers without a trial- in the story )


BEFORE AND AFTER
Top: George in better days. Below: George as he appears today in the museum, including the shoes made from his skin!


Dutch Charley and Big Nose split up. Charley was apprehended first, in Montana, and brought back to Wyoming where he fessed up to his deeds, figuring honesty was the best policy. Bad decision, because the locals were so mad they strung him up on a telegraph pole. Bye bye, Charley.
Big Nose George got caught next. He, too, confessed -- but it didn't do him any good either because he was sentenced to hang. In jail, however, he tried to escape, failing, but beating up a guard in the process. The local boys got wind of this and stormed the jail, hauling Big Nose over to the telegraph pole in front of Fred Wolfe's Saloon, where they lynched him, probably getting stiff drunk while George just got stiff.


BUT THAT'S NOT THE END to George's story. A young doctor named J.E. Osborne took possession of George's body. The first thing he did was make a death mask of his face, which you can see in the museum. Second, he sawed open his skull to check out his brain to see if it was different than a good person's brain. It wasn't.

Next, he had George skinned, and sent the skin to a Denver tannery. "Make me a pair of shoes, and leave on the nipples" he instructed. Well, he got the shoes, but not the nipples. The shoes are also in the museum.
Then he took what remained of George and put him in a whiskey barrel, which he buried. In the 1950s, construction workers digging for a new building found the barrel and the bones of Big Nose George.

Dr. Osborne wore his George shoes all the time, especially to special occasions. He eventually became a state big shot and was even elected governor. Some people say he wore George to the inauguration ball.

The top of George's skull, meanwhile, became a "brain bowl" for Dr. Lillian Nelson, Wyoming's first female doctor. For years she used it as a doorstop.

Dr. Osborne's shoes and George's sawed-off skull are in the Carbon County Museum, which is in downtown Rawlins in an old Mormon church. Admission is free.

<LI class="g w0">Big Nose George at the Carbon County Museum

Probably the most notorious Outlaw that graced the City of Rawlins, was none other than George Manuse.. a.k.a Big Nose George Parrot. George was a cattle ...
http://www.francescacontreras.com/ro.../7-museum.html - Cached - Similar
<LI class="g w0">Big Nose George: The outlaw who grew up to be a shoe!

RAWLINS, Wyo— Today, at the Carbon County Museum, I checked out the display of Big Nose George Parrot, the only man in American history to be turned into a ...
www.outwestnewspaper.com/bignose.html - Cached - Similar
<LI class="g w0">Outlaw Big Nose George Becomes a Pair of Shoes

Big Nose George Parrot was hanged in Rawlins, Wyoming


<LI class="g w0">OHNS: “Big Nose George” −by Gary Jacobs

Jan 23, 2005 ... George Manuse, AKA George Parrot, AKA George Curry, AKA Big Nose ... was that of George Parrot, the famed Outlaw with the distinctive nose. ...
www.hobonickels.org/george.htm -
<LI class="g w0">Outlaws of Carbon County

Probably the most notorious Outlaw that graced the City of Rawlins, was none other than George Manuse.. a.k.a Big Nose George Parrot. George was a cattle ...
wycarboncounty.tripod.com/outlaw.html -


Big Nose George -
"Outlaw Big Nose George Becomes a Pair of Shoes in Rawlins". http://www.legendsofamerica.com/WY-BigNose.html. Retrieved 2009-03-11. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Nose_George -
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But sometimes it just dosnt seem to work out that way ( read a offical document once saying the sheriff didnt know the people who hung these 2 killers without a trial- in the story )


BEFORE AND AFTER
Top: George in better days. Below: George as he appears today in the museum, including the shoes made from his skin!


Dutch Charley and Big Nose split up. Charley was apprehended first, in Montana, and brought back to Wyoming where he fessed up to his deeds, figuring honesty was the best policy. Bad decision, because the locals were so mad they strung him up on a telegraph pole. Bye bye, Charley.
Big Nose George got caught next. He, too, confessed -- but it didn't do him any good either because he was sentenced to hang. In jail, however, he tried to escape, failing, but beating up a guard in the process. The local boys got wind of this and stormed the jail, hauling Big Nose over to the telegraph pole in front of Fred Wolfe's Saloon, where they lynched him, probably getting stiff drunk while George just got stiff.


BUT THAT'S NOT THE END to George's story. A young doctor named J.E. Osborne took possession of George's body. The first thing he did was make a death mask of his face, which you can see in the museum. Second, he sawed open his skull to check out his brain to see if it was different than a good person's brain. It wasn't.

Next, he had George skinned, and sent the skin to a Denver tannery. "Make me a pair of shoes, and leave on the nipples" he instructed. Well, he got the shoes, but not the nipples. The shoes are also in the museum.
Then he took what remained of George and put him in a whiskey barrel, which he buried. In the 1950s, construction workers digging for a new building found the barrel and the bones of Big Nose George.

Dr. Osborne wore his George shoes all the time, especially to special occasions. He eventually became a state big shot and was even elected governor. Some people say he wore George to the inauguration ball.

The top of George's skull, meanwhile, became a "brain bowl" for Dr. Lillian Nelson, Wyoming's first female doctor. For years she used it as a doorstop.

Dr. Osborne's shoes and George's sawed-off skull are in the Carbon County Museum, which is in downtown Rawlins in an old Mormon church. Admission is free.

<LI class="g w0">Big Nose George at the Carbon County Museum

Probably the most notorious Outlaw that graced the City of Rawlins, was none other than George Manuse.. a.k.a Big Nose George Parrot. George was a cattle ...
www.francescacontreras.com/roadtrip/7-museum.html - Cached - Similar
<LI class="g w0">Big Nose George: The outlaw who grew up to be a shoe!

RAWLINS, Wyo— Today, at the Carbon County Museum, I checked out the display of Big Nose George Parrot, the only man in American history to be turned into a ...
www.outwestnewspaper.com/bignose.html - Cached - Similar
<LI class="g w0">Outlaw Big Nose George Becomes a Pair of Shoes

Big Nose George Parrot was hanged in Rawlins, Wyoming


<LI class="g w0">OHNS: “Big Nose George” −by Gary Jacobs

Jan 23, 2005 ... George Manuse, AKA George Parrot, AKA George Curry, AKA Big Nose ... was that of George Parrot, the famed Outlaw with the distinctive nose. ...
www.hobonickels.org/george.htm -
<LI class="g w0">Outlaws of Carbon County

Probably the most notorious Outlaw that graced the City of Rawlins, was none other than George Manuse.. a.k.a Big Nose George Parrot. George was a cattle ...
wycarboncounty.tripod.com/outlaw.html -


Big Nose George -
"Outlaw Big Nose George Becomes a Pair of Shoes in Rawlins". http://www.legendsofamerica.com/WY-BigNose.html. Retrieved 2009-03-11. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Nose_George -
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Old 08-08-2010, 03:25 PM   #10
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How i see it can possiblly happen too( no crowds involved) - if someone just murdered my family & are running out the door- i can hope the law catchs them- and justice is finely served someday-(i can hope to they dont murder anyone else meanwhile)- and if caught it dosnt become a Oj( or like many others like him( murders) -who walk free without the punshment for there deeds)- they walk & or are given very little time etc etc.

Or i can shoot them in the back of the head right then-

Guess what one im picking?
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