what do you know about oil?

[Ranger77]

I've been reading up on oil, oil wells, etc ....... what do ya'll know about it all?

did you know oil is a theory?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum#Formation


If the abiogenic origin hypothesis is true, could it be possible that this Tiber oil field is 100 billion barrels? 500 billion?


Think about it ..... this oil deposit is huge, its a monster unlike any found and its 35,000 feet under bedrock. 35,000 feet ...... how did organic matter get THAT deep?

What if oil is found at 50,000 feet? 100,000 feet? You're telling me organic mass got THAT deep, well past the Earth's crust and deep into the mantle itsself?

Did you know Deepwater was only 1/2 way as far as it COULD have drilled?

Did you know you cannot take organic mass, put lots of pressure on it and get oil? You can do that with carbon and get diamond ..... but you cannot make oil.





do any of you know what "IXTOC I" means?





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon

deepest well ever at a vertical depth of 35,050 ft (10,683 m) and measured depth of 35,055 ft in 4,132 feet (1,259 m) of water

think about that ..... and the BOP was a 15,00 PSI and it blew it completely off, not to mention the 1792 pounds of pressure every square inch at that depth









http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiber_Oil_Field

A giant deposit of oil is considered 250 million barrles ....... the Tiber is an unknown quantity, in the 4-6 billion barrels and maybe twice or triple that.

BP doesn't want to cap the well, and I guarantee they're trying as fast as they can to tap those 2 relief wells into Tiber before the Govt or anyone can stop them.

Then what will you have? Three wells that can deliver an amazing ammount of oil to BP and the world, and three wells that if they blow can absolutely destroy the entire Gulf part of the US

[bergall]

the origins of oil have been speculated over for years. Certainly, abiotic oil is theorized to be a 'natural byproduct' of the earth itself. You cannot drill into the mantle. It is molten, with the crust floating around on top of it. The oceanic plate goes from 3 to 5 miles in thickness, so about 25,000 feet is the limit (not counting the depth of the water between the oceanic plate and the surface of the ocean). On land, granitic rock floats above and higher than basaltic rock so while lighter, it's thicker, up to 25 miles in thickness . I do not know how
deep the BP well is...but I would think equipment would fail at temperatures of about 1600 degrees, which is average temps (according to Wiki) for the mantle.

The disgrace is that nobody's asking "Why isn't SHELL or SUN or AMERICAN drilling
those wells instead of BRITISH Petroleum....

Those who adhere to the theory that petroleum is a renewable resource do not hold to the speculation that we're 'running out of oil' as the 'greenies' babble about constantly and if so, if we cannot run out of oil, why in the heck would be switch to a more EXPENSIVE form of fuel or energy ?

[Fieldmouse]

Yes, we will be an oil based economy for your lifetime, your kids lifetime and your grandkids lifetime. That's all you need to know.

[nodog]

Oil is at least as old as Noah. Think about it, it was used to save mankind. Since then in the hands of the right people it has been a means of great benefit. In the wrongs hands it has been used to destroy men.

[Lemaitre]

Originally Posted by nodog

Oil is at least as old as Noah. Think about it, it was used to save mankind. Since then in the hands of the right people it has been a means of great benefit. In the wrongs hands it has been used to destroy men.

Oil is a lot older than Noah who supposedly lived only about 4500 years ago. The oldest known oil deposits date from the Cambrian period which was about 500 million years ago.

[Lemaitre]

Originally Posted by Ranger77

If the abiogenic origin hypothesis is true, could it be possible that this Tiber oil field is 100 billion barrels? 500 billion?

BP estimates the size of the deposit to be about 50 million barrels. The largest oil field ever discovered is the Ghewar field in Saudia Arabia was is estimated to have recoverable reserves of about 70 billion barrels. There are a number of oil fields in Saudia Arabia, Iran, Iraq and Kuwait that each have estimated reserves of 20 billion to 40 billion barrels of oil. The largest oil field discovered in the United States is Prudhoe Bay in Alaska which may have reserves of 8 to 10 billion barrels. I think most petroleum geologists would say a 500 billion barrel field is an impossibility.

The subject of the origin of hydrocarbon deposits has been studied for years. I think the consensus among professional geologists is that petroleum is so clearly made up of organic matter that it is almost all certainly of biogenic origin. Gas is a different story. While decaying organic matter certainly produces methane as proven by producing wells drilled into land fills there is strong evidence that not all methane is biogenic. The Cassinni space probe to Saturn found abundant amounts of methane on Titan, Saturn's largest moon, and it has always been far too told on Titan for life to have ever existed there so there is strong evidence methane can be produced abiogenicly.

[salukipv1]

I'm going off the grid and getting an electric car as soon as I can afford to do so.

Imagine having no bills.

[Fieldmouse]

Originally Posted by salukipv1

I'm going off the grid and getting an electric car as soon as I can afford to do so.

Imagine having no bills.

Yeah and your gerbils are going to run the wheel every night.

[Knightia]

Did you know you cannot take organic mass, put lots of pressure on it and get oil? You can do that with carbon and get diamond ..... but you cannot make oil.

Really? Someone needs to tell all those olive, soybean, corn,sunflower,canola, walnut, hemp, rapeseed,linseed etc etc

growers these things- before its to late?.

Ya cant get babyoil from babys though i dont think-well maybe.

And penguin ,pork, turkey, whale etc oil etc etc from those carbon based life forms.

( i think most crocs givin half a chance will eat a baby or pitbull or just about anything else)


Gerbil power how much did that wheel & those gerbils & car cost i wonder? To have no bills means they payed out a bit of cash right?

I have a lot of mice id like to put to work - ( been spending a lil bit to poison them all who move indoors) but i have to watch some of them arent carrying the Hanta virus & or plague-

Next thing ya know there be rodent unions demanding food-, free lunchs& medical care for life & gold watchs payed for by the taxpapers.

[Knightia]

But to be serious tho( i cant always be)

I wish anyone/everyone good luck in reaching there goals& dreams ( including those who drink raw milks) -and including those getting off & or wanting to get off the grid, have alt fuel powered cars, etc using various oils, fuels ,lubrications etc including those based on organic carbon based life forms or otherwise.


Id live a cave with a candle & family of racoon if i had to i- rather then many citys out there.
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