So far I have yet to hear anything bad said about the "Shakedown" boy AKA Commander in Chief. One has to ask, where's the foul if that's true? I seem to remember the Pres is the top of command. I don't recall anywhere that it says Vice Presitdent "Bite-Me" Biden being Vice Commander in Chief.
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This deal really puts the squeeze on Obama. Its too funny because McChrystal (sp?) is his boy from the beginning. Firing him now will shake the foundation. I do believe the good General has a little voter's remorse. Obama comes out of this one looking like horse hockey either way he goes. Only slightly less so if he doesnt fire him... so I kind of doubt he gets fired. I do believe though that hes gonna resign either way. I dont think he likes the jumping through hoops rules of engagement and getting shafted on the troops he needed.
This deal really puts the squeeze on Obama. Its too funny because McChrystal (sp?) is his boy from the beginning. Firing him now will shake the foundation. I do believe the good General has a little voter's remorse. Obama comes out of this one looking like horse hockey either way he goes. Only slightly less so if he doesnt fire him... so I kind of doubt he gets fired. I do believe though that hes gonna resign either way. I dont think he likes the jumping through hoops rules of engagement and getting shafted on the troops he needed.
I generally agree....but being as obama is about as together as creamed corn, and his polling numbers are stuck to the bottom of somebody's shoe, he's gonna say he showed McChrystal the door, because he's tough, he demands his due as CINC and McCrystal stepped over the line. It's of no consequence. Stevie Wonder can see that McChrystal is ticked at his having to report to a president who's screwed him time and again, and who's irrevocably portrayed himself as an incompetent puke. He's said his piece, and I have more respect for him today than I did before. Good for him. Obama, on the other hand, cannot recover from the criticism; his own troops hold him in disgust. Hehehehe...how natural !
Frankly, I'm not sure that much of what McCrystal said wasn't right. But the top commander in a foreign war going on the record with a reporter to criticize the commander in chief and his administration? If that's the kind of judgment that McCrystal routinely displays, it's little wonder that the war in Afghanistan isn't going as well as planned. There are certain things that you just don't do and this is one of them.
On the other hand, Obama is overreacting by ordering McCrystal to return stateside immediately for a D.C. showdown. This is a lose-lose situation for Obama, and he made it a much bigger story than it otherwise would've been with this reaction. This situation would've been much better handled if Obama had quietly taken a trip in a couple of weeks to meet with McCrystal.
Bottom line, though: the general should be removed from his duties in Afghanistan. Those types of comments from a military leader about his commander in chief during a time of war cannot and should not be tolerated.
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There are certain things that you just don't do and this is one of them.
Kind of like releasing all of our interrogation secrets for the enemy to review. IMO treason charges should have been brought against Obama, and any one else involved, for this act and McCrystal wouldn't have had the opportunity to belittle the terrorist in chief.
These types of acts (giving aid to the enemy) from the commander in chief during a time of war can not and should not be tolerated by anyone.
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A better question might be: Why is he granting audience to a Rolling Stone reporter?
Dumb. Real dumb. Or....
He wanted to make a statement.
Which was dumb. Real dumb.
Even worse, if the reporter is telling the truth, McCrystal and his team invited the reporter to follow them around for an extended period of time, including to a dinner where they made some of the remarks as they were getting plastered...knowing full well that he was a reporter.
Like or dislike of Obama aside, you have to seriously question the general's judgment at this point.
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A better question might be: Why is he granting audience to a Rolling Stone reporter?
Dumb. Real dumb. Or....
He wanted to make a statement.
Which was dumb. Real dumb.
Point taken. Truth be told, Obama surrendered Afganishstan from day one. He has lead these troops to battle not because he believes it was a just cause but he couldn't cut the ties so soon. One has to wonder if McCrystal sees the writtings on the wall? On the other hand, This isn't one interview given in one hour.
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Frankly, I'm not sure that much of what McCrystal said wasn't right. But the top commander in a foreign war going on the record with a reporter to criticize the commander in chief and his administration?
There is that "but" again. FYI, so far no reports I've seen has shown him criticizing his Shakedown, oopps, Commander in Chief "Wantabe" Obama.
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After reading all 6 pages of this RS article, I think our country has a much bigger problem than Obama's wounded pride or McChrystal's diarrhea of the mouth with the press. In fairness to McChrystal, some of the words appear to be the reporter's and not McChrystal's. But that is merely focusing on stupid reporting and writing.
The entire article suggests quite clearly that Obama, his administration, the Pentagon and the top military commanders all do not have a cohesive or productive plan that is likely to "win" the Afghanistan war. To the contrary, any 2nd rate military historian or student could figure out what the writer painfully stumbles around and avoids examining in any detail. To wit, we are wasting our time in Afghanistan.
Obama criticized Bush's handling of both wars yet is apparently using remarkably similar tactics, strategy and even terms of definition. There does not appear to be a logical plan to actually win this war, just more "nation building" in a country of people who don't want that type of government, country or culture. In summary, our efforts are very unlikely to be successful and Obama appears to be worried about how to leave with some kind of dignity because he sure doesn't seem to have any plausible idea about how to win, prevail or even just be successful.
Such blind stumbling is eerily familiar to how many other issues and "crises" are being handled by our government. And for those who would dismiss this as mere anti-Obama rhetoric, step back a minute, take away the names and really think about the incompetence, ignorance and sometimes blind stupidity that you've just read about in the RS article.
Sound familiar? Kind of deja vu? Bush made many of the same types of stupid errors both in the war and domestically that Obama is making. Bush and Obama may have a different skin color, political affiliation, talk differently and perhaps were even born in different countries (just messin' with the conspiracy nuts) but they share some strikingly similar stupidity traits.
Both think they are smarter than they really are, don't bother with learning what they are talking about and make ignorant, uninformed decisions. Both tend to surround themselves with questionable morons, some of whom act like criminals and then fail to monitor much less supervise their efforts properly. Both are obviously clueless about how to manage PR let alone actually demonstrate leadership. Both have this unbelievable talent to screw up significant challenges and opportunities which would define a better President. Both are simply in over their head. And so is General Stanley McChrystal as it's obvious that he doesn't have some significant plan for success and is instead just postponing a train wreck.
p.s. The Rolling stone writer also sucks. He's too busy acting like a wannabe tough talking warrior and absolutely squandered an impressive opportunity to define a serious evaluation of the war, our strategy and its' consequences.
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