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Old 06-10-2010, 06:32 AM   #1
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NRA endorses McCain in Arizona Republican primary
By JONATHAN J. COOPER (AP) – 6 days ago
PHOENIX — The National Rifle Association endorsed John McCain Thursday in Arizona's Republican Senate primary.
The endorsement was a significant boost for McCain, providing high-profile support for his conservative credentials as he tries to shake a primary challenge by former U.S. Rep. J.D. Hayworth.
Hayworth has attacked McCain's record on gun rights, saying the four-term Senator has supported restrictive legislation.
Hayworth touts an endorsement from Gun Owners of America, a smaller gun-rights lobbying group.
The NRA endorsed McCain in three of his four previous runs for the U.S. Senate, but it stayed out of his race in 2004 against a little-known Democrat.
The organization endorsed Hayworth in at least six of his seven U.S. House races.
Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.



Do the words gun show loophole ring a bell? Anyone remember him kissing AGS hiney?


Here is part of his record on gun rights voting. Its not very impressive at all in fact its pretty damned dismal. I am at a loss to explain what the NRA is thinking. Except to say Im sure their mind is focused on green..

http://gunowners.org/mcv106.htm
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:22 PM   #2
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McCain has more clout in the Senate, is a deal-maker, and is still popular among many Republican voters nationwide. Not to mention that the possibility of any new federal gun control legislation is slim at best, at least for the next couple of years. NRA is perpetually trying to attract and retain more members, and I think McCain gives them more bang for their buck.
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Old 06-10-2010, 08:04 PM   #3
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i'm a 50 year NRA member. The NRA got a scathing rebuke from me earlier this week for supporting Juan McCain. Did anyone ever hear of the Lieberman-McCain "gun show loophole" bill? Lieberman-McCain was draconian gun control at its worst. Thankfully it did not become law.


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1. Unprecedented federal control over gun shows nationwide -- perfectly legal gun shows become strictly outlawed without prior federal approval, licensing and registration of each show;

2. Centralized federal licensing and registration of every gun-show promoter in the nation;

3. Centralized federal registration of every vendor -- including non-gun vendors -- at any gun show in the country. In order for me to sell my BOOKS at a gun show I'll have to pre-register and prove who I am, or face arrest; a private individual looking to sell a single gun would be treated as a vendor under this law and must be registered even if the gun isn't sold;

4. Centralized federal registration of EVERY PERSON who attends a gun show in America, whether or not they make purchases of anything at all -- you won't be allowed in without registering;

5. Centralized collection of "any other information" on gun-show attendees, as determined solely by the Secretary of the Treasury;

6. Imprisonment for attending a gun show and failing to give up any information required by regulations of the Secretary of the Treasury;
7. Imprisonment of any gun-show promoter who fails to register a single vendor;

8. Imprisonment of gun-show promoters who cannot prove they notified every person attending a gun show of the new rules, and obtained from attendees any information the Secretary of the Treasury mandates by regulation;

9. Centralized collection of "any other information" the Secretary of the Treasury decides, by regulation, is necessary on vendors, attendees, and the gun show itself;
10. Submission by gun-show promoters of vendor registration logs a) 30 days before any gun show, and b) additional submission of updated vendor registration logs 72 hours before any gun show, and c) additional submission of vendor registration logs within five days of the close of any gun show, under penalty of arrest and imprisonment for non-compliance;

11. Identification of vendors only by use of federally approved photo ID that may include use of a social security number, electronically encoded data, or "biometric identifiers" such as fingerprint, voice print, retina scan, iris scan, or similar (as defined under 18 USC 1028(d)(2));

12. Creation of a new license (in addition to a gun-show-promoter license), similar to FFLs, for individuals who want access to the NICS national background check system for facilitating gun-show sales for private citizens;

13. Regulations to be issued by the Secretary of the Treasury on the procedures, data collections, methods and implementation of the entire process to federally control gun shows, in addition to the requirements made by the proposed statute; such regulations will not be known, drafted or even suggested, until after the McCain-Lieberman law is enacted;

14. The proposed bill also puts pressure on state governments to make at least 95% of their law enforcement records for the past 30 years openly available to the federal government; and
-- makes unlimited funds available for the states to comply with these federal goals;
-- requires annual federal review of states' compliance;
-- increases penalties (up to ten years imprisonment) for record-keeping violations;
-- grants states permission to make even more restrictive requirements without being out of compliance with these new federal laws (and by implication, puts states that resist these rules in federal trouble);
-- provides hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for more law enforcement under numerous programs including project Exile and others;
-- hires 200 more Federal BATF Agents;
-- provides $10 million to the National Institute for Justice to give out for research on "technologies that limit the use of a gun to the owner"; and
-- provides for annual reports (in great detail) by the Attorney General to Congress on whether the Brady law is working;

15. Enlargement of the federal bureaucracy and appropriation from taxpayers of "such funds as are necessary" to license, register and monitor an estimated ten million non-criminals who attend the thousands of gun shows held annually in America; and

16. Oh yes, I almost forgot about the so-called "loophole" part the media is so excited about -- the McCain-Lieberman bill will make an honest private citizen a criminal for transferring a gun to another honest private citizen, without first registering the transfer with, and getting permission from, the federal government (represented by the FBI at its data complex in Clarksburg, West Virginia).
Transfer or possession of a firearm to or by a criminal (a "federally prohibited possessor") is completely unaffected by the McCain-Lieberman "loophole" bill, so I guess it's accurate to characterize it as a loophole bill.

To sum up: Perfectly legal gun sales -- with no victims or criminal activity of any kind -- are outlawed at gun shows by the McCain-Lieberman bill, unless the sale is pre-registered with the federal government; real crimes are totally unaffected; and your friends in the federal government take over full control of gun shows -- which have been previously free of government infringement for more than 200 years.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:05 PM   #4
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The NRA has become fat and lazy....IMO
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:43 AM   #5
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It certainly is interesting that the NRA has gone from accusing John McCain of being a "flag carrier for the enemies of the 2nd Amendment" to endorsing him for re-election. It isn't like McCain has suddenly become a huge friend of gunowners that would warrant the NRA's about-face.

I guess the NRA's stance can be summed up in three words: James Jay Baker.
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:27 AM   #6
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shameful....
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Old 06-12-2010, 03:26 AM   #7
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don't understand it.
I'd not vote McCain on a bet (except when he ran against Bumbling Barry).
It's a bad choice, to say the least.
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