but i have got a delima and i saw a thread about this here the other day, i was going to post this in the lounge but i couldn't find that forum....but here goes our middle boy is 27 years old and is a memeber of this countries armed services, heck i'll go ahead and tell you he is a marine and well he is/has been for a few years showing strong signs of homo sexual tendicies, and i am afraid that the "don't ask don't tell" propaganda is going to do more harm than good and that he'll be singled out, even though in his own words the us armed forces is "full of people like him" mostly women though, but they are continually ostrasized and singled out.
we have tried to talk him out of re-enlisting but he seems to be dead set on re-upping, another thing me and my wife have noticed and is of deep concern to us is that, well, it seems that whatever social skills he learned in life has been removed and he has great difficulty getting along with anyone, my wife seems to think it is simply because of his sexual prefrences, to me he has changed, he still likes man type things, guns, hunting and camping, but he prefers to spend his time in the company of kind of feminine acting men, its making me nasious just thinking about it..here he is a big strong texas man that could have any women he desired and he chooses this lifestyle...but were afraid at this point of his life he couldn't function in the general populous
i have been able to handle just about anything that life has thrown in my path, but this, i just don't know which way to take this, any input is appreciated
The way I look at this is sin is sin. For instance, I love women. Big ones, small ones, whatever. I am married. I love my wife, and I as a Christian have to constantly pray for grace and strength to overcome my lust for women. If I give in to that sin, I have sin of adultery. And if I throw up my arms and shack up with a women, or go sleeping around, thats habitual sin. And as it says in 1 and 2nd John, if I continual to sin the same sin, I have to check myself to see if God is in me.
Homosexuality is commented a lot more in the Bible. But we have no way of knowing the wieghing factor in God's eyes. We make assumptions based off of the OT and 1 Corinthians.
Last edited by bigcountry; 05-25-2010 at 08:29 AM.
Well I can certainly comment on the subject based on my military experience and having encountered a few homosexual folks. I'm currently on active duty and I can attest to what your son told you. There are definitely some homosexuals in the USMC but they're not open about it. They can't be. As long as they don't "tell" anyone about it, they can't be persecuted. And we are bound by that policy to not "ask" either. In my experience, it hasn't been an issue at all. I have served in the same unit as Marines I knew for a fact were homosexuals but I'm not going to go on a crusade to try to get them kicked out. In my opinion, their personal life is just that. I have yet to encounter a situation where someones sexual orientation has effected their job performance or the general morale of the unit they served in. There are folks that will make jokes and talk about them behind their back but for the most part it is a non-issue. As long as he's not openly telling everyone he's a homosexual, he should be able to continue serving if that is what he wants. But I can tell you from experience, if he told his superiors flat out that he is homosexual, he wouldn't be a Marine very much longer. The policy is there for a reason and it's soul purpose is to maintain good order and discipline within the military.
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Just remember he probably didn't "choose" his lifestyle. As much as allot of people (especially fathers) do not want to come to terms with it he most likely was born with this way and having these thoughts since very young. It would be much easier and most gay people will agree that it would have been much easier for him in life not to be this way. So in essence he did not choose to be gay. Think back to when he was young and you may have seen it but probably didn't really notice it. I have a friend who's son is gay and he seems oblivious to the fact. Son goes to art school, hangs out with all women and constantly throws his head to the side to fix his hair like a woman. He always brags "you should see the chicks my kids going out with tonight" I don't have the heart to tell my buddy that hordes of hot chicks rarely hang out with one guy constantly unless the dudes gay.
Thank you all for the thoughtful replies we are going to seek professional counseling and talk to our preacher, and do a lot of praying over it, just wanted to thank all of you.
like i mentioned, my wife is more willing to accept this, it is killing me though
Just remember he probably didn't "choose" his lifestyle.
It's a choice!
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I was going to stay out of this, but I cant stand ignerant comments like this. You are so wrong! Why would anyone "choose" to be gay, when they get treated the way they do.
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I was going to stay out of this, but I cant stand ignerant comments like this. You are so wrong! Why would anyone "choose" to be gay, when they get treated the way they do.
Same reason I choose not to go out and tap every strange I see. I loved women, all types. Espeically different ones. Just because it feels good doesn't mean do it. There are reprecusions to asking that way. Same as living a gay lifestyle. Sure doesn't mean its right or proper way to act. A man sticking his pecker in bacteria filled sewer is not a proper way to act.
There's no way you could even argue it is. Fecal matter comes out of there. I emphasize "out". Any moron would figure out this is not correct behavior.
Same as I may have tendencies to want to treat the roadway like a racetrack. I may want too. I may even practice that for a while. Its not a correct way to act.
This "if it feels good, do it" way of thought you carry could possible be seen as "ignorant".
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