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Old 05-24-2010, 06:18 PM   #1
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Default Who is going down for offering Sestak an administration job?

Clearly illegal and a violation of federal law. Could this lead to impeachment of BHO? Dick Morris was pointing out that if Secretary of the Navy, rumored to be the offer for not running against Arlen, that more than likely would have involved BHO sign off. He appoints these folks. Would the slease Raum, fall on his sword?

Something to rally behind and look forward to by demanding an investigation. Obama poll numbers being so down, it becomes more realistc. Don't worry about Biden, he's too dumb to screw things up.
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Any links? I haven't heard much about this...sounds interesting...
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Not many links. You can google it. It's a story that's not going away. Sestak hasn't backed away from his claim that someone in the administration offered him a job not to run against Arlen Spector. It's months old but Sestak, the open and honest guy won't reveal who made the offer. Just recently, the White House released a statement claiming they found no laws were broken after a thorough internal investigation. Hmmm, must be trust worthy.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...est=latestnews
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Yep, this is about as crooked as it gets. Obama took a page from the sleazy Clinton playbook: US Rep. Joseph Kennedy wanted to be governor of MA. Problem was that the Republican governor of MA was very popular and he wanted to stay in office.

Clinton appointed MA governor Weld to be ambassador to Mexico and Weld resigned the MA governor job. Weld had badmouthed Republican US senator Jesse Helms during his last campaign. Clinton was aware that Helms would never vet Weld for the job.

In the end Helms refused to set a confirmation hearing for Weld and the Kennedy self destructed because of an affair.
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Rahm will take the fall if he has to for the Fearless Leader. There will be no investigation until the House changes hands. You cannot fundimentally change America without usurping a few Laws along the way. Hope and Chage. LOL. Yeah Right. What was it that P.T. Barnum said?
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So Obama claims nothing happened that was illegal but unwilling to tell what happened. We have a party to the issue refusing to speak until the White House tells their side. Boysda, clearly you must be able to agree that potentially a serious crime may have occured. Is it common for a prosecutor to ignore all this and allow parties of that potential serious crime to converse and get their stories straight before you try and get statements?
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So Obama claims nothing happened that was illegal but unwilling to tell what happened. We have a party to the issue refusing to speak until the White House tells their side. Boysda, clearly you must be able to agree that potentially a serious crime may have occured. Is it common for a prosecutor to ignore all this and allow parties of that potential serious crime to converse and get their stories straight before you try and get statements?


sorry, don't think anyone's going down. this one's a bit of a yawner.

this has gone on since the dawn of the republic. one example that comes readily to mind is Ike offering then-governor warren a slot on the supreme court, in return for securing california republican delegates for the primary nomination. fdr cut a deal with a potential primary opponent (i don't remember who) to drop out of the race, and become V.P. just about every national politician has done it.

this sort of thing is really politics 101, and only a piker does it the wrong way. say what you want about the current administration, but one thing they are not, from a political standpoint, is amateurs.

i would agree, however, that it's damaging to obama. this stuff is "politics as usual", and he pledged to end "politics as usual". while damaging, i just don't think it rises, or will rise, to the scandal level you're hoping for.
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Old 05-28-2010, 04:32 AM   #9
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Oh, since you put it that way, why have laws on the books? Let's just move on and forget about enforcement in this matterl. Sorry to bring it up.
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sorry, don't think anyone's going down. this one's a bit of a yawner.

this has gone on since the dawn of the republic. one example that comes readily to mind is Ike offering then-governor warren a slot on the supreme court, in return for securing california republican delegates for the primary nomination. fdr cut a deal with a potential primary opponent (i don't remember who) to drop out of the race, and become V.P. just about every national politician has done it.

this sort of thing is really politics 101, and only a piker does it the wrong way. say what you want about the current administration, but one thing they are not, from a political standpoint, is amateurs.

i would agree, however, that it's damaging to obama. this stuff is "politics as usual", and he pledged to end "politics as usual". while damaging, i just don't think it rises, or will rise, to the scandal level you're hoping for.
The biggest difference here from some of this happening in the past is that Sestack has came out since the beginning of this telling everyone who will listen they offered him a job to drop out. This isnt an after the fact years later admission.

To shrug this off as politics as usual means you are just giving up on our current system(which I understand) or making some horrible excuse for the powers in charge right now.

It is however another example of how the CNN/NBC's etc..never do news stories on anything that could hurt their party.
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