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Old 05-20-2010, 06:50 AM   #1
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More bail outs in process? Fox News reported this morning on 2 bills. One is already before congress, 100 billion to bail out state pensions. The other one is about to get submitted for 165 billion to bail out private pensions.

Libs, WTF? It's nice to have the Dems on the hook to you when you spend millions to get Dems elected. Please tell me why this crap should go on? Why should I be on the hook to pay for another state's pension fund? Should we also get voting rights in any state that gets their pension fund bailed out by the ("rich")American Taxpayer? Why should I be on the hook for a private company pension fund? Why can't the established PBGC be good enough. Why are Dems trying to go above and beyond what's needed and already set up?
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:24 AM   #2
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Because their Mom, Apple Pie and Socialists. Who's lending the government the cash to do this? Thats what I would like to know. Where can somebody get credit like this. Its amazing. We just keep spending and spending, and China keeps warning us to reel it in. Its looks like total destruction to me, were slamming into the wall at 100mph.
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:28 AM   #3
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Absolutely right about the spending. The Dems have kicked it into hyper drive. I guess they know they will be loosing in the fall time and are trying to get it all passed now.
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I think you are on to something empty. Remember the old Chevy commercials.

"Baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and Chevrolets." Since Chevrolet is now government motors, I think you just wrote the next, retro based commercial.
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:20 AM   #5
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Bailing out private pension plans is nothing new, it's been going on for decades. i'm sure the pace has picked up since the economy tanked.

Check out the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation:

http://www.pbgc.gov/

Here is a list of big company pension plans that have been bailed out with taxpayer money: Yep, Lehman Bros. is right there, along with Circuit City and United Airlines:

http://www.pbgc.gov/workers-retirees...t/page676.html
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Old 05-21-2010, 04:17 AM   #6
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Bailing out private pension plans is nothing new, it's been going on for decades. i'm sure the pace has picked up since the economy tanked.

Check out the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation:

http://www.pbgc.gov/

Here is a list of big company pension plans that have been bailed out with taxpayer money: Yep, Lehman Bros. is right there, along with Circuit City and United Airlines:

http://www.pbgc.gov/workers-retirees...t/page676.html
Yes, but bennies are capped at around 56k/yr maximum and even that amount isn't guarantied. There are a lot of factors that go into that amount. What's being talked about now is a full guarantee above and beyond whats been established. Obama has set the bar higher now that he voided contracts, screwed the secured creditors and gave large chunks of GM and Chrysler to the unions on top of the estimated 40 billion + in loans that won't be repaid to the tax payer.
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One is already before congress, 100 billion to bail out state pensions.
One form of American government bailing out another form of American government.

What is wrong with this picture boys and girls?
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Don't know if you can blame it entirely on Libs, its more like gov't in general. We do recall the billions in ballouts under the bush administration? While I agree it's not the taxpayers place to bail them out, I don't agree its one particular parties fault.
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Don't know if you can blame it entirely on Libs, its more like gov't in general. We do recall the billions in ballouts under the bush administration? While I agree it's not the taxpayers place to bail them out, I don't agree its one particular parties fault.
Bush got bashed on that one as well. Furthermore most of thaty money was already paid back. The problem is that it's become a slush fund. What's wrong now is that Obama already spent close to 1.5 trillion in bailout money since he's come into office and there is no end in sight.
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Thats a profound statement VC. Scary, but true. After bailing out the sandal footed greeks.....anything is possible.
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