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Originally Posted by LBR
That's not what I said. It was sarcasm. You, or I, or whoever boycotting Mexico makes and much sense (and will have as much effect) as the Seattle mayor boycotting AZ.
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i am vaguely familiar with the idea of sarcasm.
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Part of what I said was serious though. If we had the same policy towards illegals (and enforced it) that Mexico has, we wouldn't have anywhere near the problem with them that we do.
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i would agree the federal government has failed miserably on this issue.
i was partly serious as well, though. I realize no free country has any business preventing their citizens from leaving; however, Mexico has tacitly been exporting many of its social problems to us for years. I do not necessarily mean individual illegal aliens, but rather am speaking of the problem broadly. The Mexican government's complete inability to deal with their own responsibilities to provide for the health, safety, and welfare of their citizenry has contributed in large part to the problem. In a perfect world, we would slap them with a bill for the cost of the social services we have been providing their citizens.
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What's so wrong with AZ enforcing the law when the feds won't anyway?
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beats me. did i say i had a problem with it, or were you speaking rhetorically?
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Another question you might be able to help me out with. Unions are staunch supporters of the Dem party--correct? The Dem party is (in general) staunch supporters of illegals (fighting the new AZ law, supporting amnesty, etc.). Does this not seen contradictory, since the illegals are obviously costing the union workers a ton of jobs? I guess the Dem party considers the illegals to be more valuable constituents than the unions? Oh, no, that can't be right--everyone knows that illegals aren't allowed to vote (**wink wink**). So, what's the deal?
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I didn't reaize I was the democrat "answer man".
I can tell you up here, the building trades industry is awash in illegals. thus the building trades unions ( a group i'm pretty familar with) will frequently raise money, and work GOTV efforts on behalf of any candidate who is seen as anti-illegal.
from a political standpoint, it's a dicey issue. i would not be surprised if in some instances illegals have voted, and in some areas may be able to influence the outcome of a local election. i am unaware of them having any meaningful influence on the outcome of a national election. The latino voting bloc, however, is another issue. given current demographic trends, the legal latino community is going to be increasingly relevent in future elections. this bloc is still largely up for grabs, and both parties have courted their vote. immigration is obviously a hot button issue for this community, as are other issues like the alleged potential for racial profiling in the AZ law. any national politician with a survival instinct will tread lightly around these issues.
for my part, I blame
-our own federal government for wilfully abdicating its duty to safeguard our borders;
-both parties for being wilful participants in the above, as a result of quietly catering to constituent groups that benefit from the status quo;
-those on this side of the border who knowingly engage the services of illegals;
-the Mexican government for tacitly promoting the status quo.
Boycott Arizona Poll Q13 Seattle
