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Old 04-29-2010, 11:31 AM   #1
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Default Get ready California and New Mexico, here comes your illegals.

It appears the Az law is already working. Your welcome California. Boycot Az and win the prize. The prize is more mouths to feed on your already bankrupt State.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100429/D9FCDCN00.html

and Heaven forbid we hire American citizens to hang our drywall or do our gardening and pay them minimum wage. I guess those who are against Az's law want to exploit slave labor.
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Slave labor is why we have children,except mine can't even get him to haul the trash!
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Take those Mustange keys. I bet the trash gets taken out.
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Aren't these American businesses who are hiring illegals instead of American workers? Aren't they just as much to blame for American unemployment if not MORE than illegal aliens? If you got American business to stop hiring illegals you wouldn't need new laws or any such nonsense to solve the illegal alien problem. Illegals wouldn't be flocking to this country if they knew there were no jobs available here for them. American business is the root of this problem, but of course the sleazy politicians won't put the blame on American business since they would lose a great deal of campaign donations from them if they somehow pointed the fingers where they should have been pointed in the first place.
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Aren't these American businesses who are hiring illegals instead of American workers? Aren't they just as much to blame for American unemployment if not MORE than illegal aliens? If you got American business to stop hiring illegals you wouldn't need new laws or any such nonsense to solve the illegal alien problem. Illegals wouldn't be flocking to this country if they knew there were no jobs available here for them. American business is the root of this problem, but of course the sleazy politicians won't put the blame on American business since they would lose a great deal of campaign donations from them if they somehow pointed the fingers where they should have been pointed in the first place.
There are many ways to skin a cat. Or if you prefer . . . "my children, there are many colors in our rainbow!" If the Arizona law works, great, what's the problem? As far as engaging the business owners to not hire illegals, good idea. I believe Oklahoma has actually passed such a law and it is working! Illegals are leaving and avoiding Oklahoma!

This is how things advance. Different people try different solutions. Some solutions work well, some solutions fail, some solutions work moderately. The results are evaluated, courses are redirected, we move forwards. If the Arizona law fails, we'll adapt moving forwards. If the Arizona law works, anticipate seeing Texas do something similar. Maybe both Arizona and Texas will discover what Oklahoma is doing and add that to the pot of chilli? Sounds good to me.

I don't understand all the hue and cry about trying to stop illegal immigration. If it was OK, it wouldn't be illegal. If the law is stupid, or wrong, or poorly conceived, why not fix the law rather than ignore and not enforce the law?
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There are many ways to skin a cat. Or if you prefer . . . "my children, there are many colors in our rainbow!" If the Arizona law works, great, what's the problem? As far as engaging the business owners to not hire illegals, good idea. I believe Oklahoma has actually passed such a law and it is working! Illegals are leaving and avoiding Oklahoma!

This is how things advance. Different people try different solutions. Some solutions work well, some solutions fail, some solutions work moderately. The results are evaluated, courses are redirected, we move forwards. If the Arizona law fails, we'll adapt moving forwards. If the Arizona law works, anticipate seeing Texas do something similar. Maybe both Arizona and Texas will discover what Oklahoma is doing and add that to the pot of chilli? Sounds good to me.

I don't understand all the hue and cry about trying to stop illegal immigration. If it was OK, it wouldn't be illegal. If the law is stupid, or wrong, or poorly conceived, why not fix the law rather than ignore and not enforce the law?
It is already against federal law to hire anyone without a S.S# or legal resident status. Why isn't this law enforced?? It's just like gun control. Some of you guys cry that we already have thousands of laws on the books and that we don't need any new ones, so how is this any different? We have ONE very clear one where it is illegal for an American business to hire someone without the proper work and resident paperwork. Enforce this law and you WON'T need any others to solve the problem at hand here. Real simple, but people here and elsewhere can't seem to figure it out.
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. . . Why isn't this law enforced?? . . . Enforce this law and you WON'T need any others to solve the problem at hand here. Real simple, but people here and elsewhere can't seem to figure it out.
I have selected some words from your post. The selected words are very much to our point.

Why isn't the law barring illegal entry into the US enforced, to whit the border secured and illegal entry thwarted? Indeed, as you say -- though directed to other laws -- enforce this law and you WON'T need any others. Indeed, it is real simple.
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and insofar as this is a law on the FEDERAL level, is it not CRIMINAL for the feds to abrogate their responsibility in this regard ? IF a terrorist gains entry into this country thru the many southern crossings and wreaks havoc and mayhem on an Amerikan city, would that be an impeachable offense ? Is this not criminal incompetence ? Does this rise to the status of a 'high crime' ? This is the EXACT scenario being referenced daily by thousands of folks worried about the faux-president's failure to protect this country from foreign invaders.
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Aren't these American businesses who are hiring illegals instead of American workers? Aren't they just as much to blame for American unemployment if not MORE than illegal aliens? If you got American business to stop hiring illegals you wouldn't need new laws or any such nonsense to solve the illegal alien problem. Illegals wouldn't be flocking to this country if they knew there were no jobs available here for them. American business is the root of this problem, but of course the sleazy politicians won't put the blame on American business since they would lose a great deal of campaign donations from them if they somehow pointed the fingers where they should have been pointed in the first place.
I agree 100%
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Take those Mustange keys. I bet the trash gets taken out.
yeah about that...Mustang is gone,driving new Jeep!
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