Support for repeal is proving to be just as consistent as opposition to the plan before it was passed into law. Over the past five weeks since Congress passed the measure, support for repeal has remained in a very narrow range from a low of 54% to a high of 58%.
And the reason is? Not because it's not liberal enough....
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Sixty percent (60%) of voters nationwide believe the new law will increase the federal budget deficit, while just 19% say it will reduce the deficit.
Fifty-seven percent (57%) think the law will increase the cost of health care, while 18% believe it will reduce costs.
Fifty-one percent (51%) expect the quality of care to decline, while 24% predict it will get better.
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Overall, 39% of voters nationwide believe the health care law will be good for the country, while 52% believe it will be bad.
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Eighty-two percent (82%) of Political Class voters oppose repeal. Seventy-one percent (71%) of Mainstream American voters take the opposite view and favor repeal
I don't expect a liberal to believe Rasmussen over CNN, especially when CNN is much more likely to be slanted towards the liberal viewpoint--but it's fun to put facts out here that correct the libs all the same.
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
you will, of course, forgive me for not waiting by the key-board, desperate for every pearl of wisdom that you graciously drool onto this forum. this is, after all, just and internet message board.
and i don't think i ever said that health care reform as passed was overwhelmingly popular-i said don't put too much stock in polls, as they can be deceiving. i then cited a CNN poll to illustrate my point.
you will, of course, forgive me for not waiting by the key-board, desperate for every pearl of wisdom that you graciously drool onto this forum.
I suppose I can this one time--after all, I am a very forgiving and generous kind of guy. And I wear a bib to catch the drool, thank you very much.
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and i don't think i ever said that health care reform as passed was overwhelmingly popular-i said don't put too much stock in polls, as they can be deceiving. i then cited a CNN poll to illustrate my point.
You used the CNN poll to "prove" that some of the discontent was because the bill wasn't liberal enough, and said something to the effect that it was a good starting point. You also proclaimed that the CNN poll wasn't slanted. The Rasmussen poll corrects you on all points....and that was my point. 'Course I made that clear in my first post. Funny how a guy that just sits and drools manages to raise so much ire with you.
So, how was the brisket and the excavating? You must be quite talented to be able to smoke a brisket and excavate at the same time.
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
I suppose I can this one time--after all, I am a very forgiving and generous kind of guy. And I wear a bib to catch the drool, thank you very much.
i prefer a chin cup
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You also proclaimed that the CNN poll wasn't slanted.
oh, come on. you're better than that. where did i "proclaim" such a thing? (hint...i didn't). but i will say gallup polls (they are CNN's pollster) tend to doas good a job as any of the big boys.
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The Rasmussen poll corrects you on all points....and that was my point.
actually, i think rasmussen does a pretty good job, particularly with respect to electoral outcomes. i don't have much of any opinion one way or the other with respect to their issues polling. in this instance, without having the actual data (cross-tabs, etc) i can't pass judgment one way or the other.
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So, how was the brisket and the excavating? You must be quite talented to be able to smoke a brisket and excavate at the same time. [/quote]
thppppt.
brisket came out great, thanks for asking. after 8 hours, could cut that puppy with a spoon. unfortunately, i had to use mesquite rather than hickory (i prefer mesquite for pork, hickory for beef and bird), but my hickory connection was out.
the dig worked well...up until we got three inches of rain. i am now considering stocking my embryonic patio (and no, i'm not interested in debating whether it's a patio from the moment i break ground, or if it becomes a patio somewhere during the construction continuum)
with bass.
the CNN poll (actually CNN/Gallup...fairly nonpartisan, regardless of what you say)
Nahh....you didn't proclaim anything about CNN not being slanted...
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
Nahh....you didn't proclaim anything about CNN not being slanted...
*sigh*... i said the CNN/Gallup polls were non-partisan. you do see a difference between a non-partisan poll and a slanted/push poll, don't you?
(*edit: and for the record, I do maintain the Gallup polls, and the Rasmussen, are both nonpartisan and non-slanted. as is often the case, you and i seem to get sidetracked on trivialities. why is that, you suppose?)
and for the record, what precisely are we arguing about? whose pollster is better? you've thrown up the rasmussen poll as somehow invalidating, or establishing the bias of, the earlier CNN/Gallup poll. you realize that the converse argument could also be made? this is why i don't put too much stock in polls-they are a snapshot in time of what the polled demographics are feeling over a 72 hour time frame on a certain issue or issues. they are most instructive when dealing with very simple questions (e.g. will you vote for x or y), and less instructive, and often very inconsistent, when dealing with more nuanced issues like healthcare.
Support for repeal is proving to be just as consistent as opposition to the plan before it was passed into law.
It's not a "snapshot"--the findings have been consistent. When you attach "CNN" to a poll, you should know it's going to be slanted, or partisan (whichever term you prefer, end results are the same). Just like if you attached "FOX" to the Rasmussen poll.
I wouldn't be my life on a poll--not even close. However, if you take everything into account, it's a no-brainer. The polling has been consistently negative against the bill. The dems had a "supermajority", yet they still had to beg, bribe, arm-twist, etc. to even get their own people on board. Maybe a couple because it wasn't liberal enough, but that wasn't the deal-breaker. The problem was simple--they want to be re-elected, and the majority of people were against it. We know that the "projected" costs were lies, and that's already coming to light. We know that gov't healthcare is a failure, both financially and for the patient--there's no reason to try and re-invent the wheel.
I can understand backing your party, but I can't understand ignoring the facts of the matter, especially when they are so obvious.
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
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