How can a topic be closed? Isn't it the point of this board to discuss issues, some controversial? If you can't hang, and you can't face the holes being poked in your logic, especially when considering issues which have moral implications, then don't post. Let the headstrong have their word.
I don't know who can close a topic but I guess they could just close this too. I'm going to try to make my comment anyway:
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but to answer your question, i understand that in some scenarios, for a variety of reasons, an abortion may end up costing the life of what I would define as a human being. I'm not "ok" with it, but i accept it. countless policy decisions made by society as a matter of course, from the mundane of speed limits and road widening, to the more obvious use of military force, have a calculable cost measured in innocent human lives. this may be more controversial for obvious reasons, but the net results are the same.
Abortion isn't comparable to traffic laws, not even close. People choose to travel. The laws, road designs, etc.. are all to attempt to make the road safer, so less folks kill them selves.
War can be compared in someways, but it only further defines the moral implications of those who are pro-choice. As with Abortion, war will deny some innocent humans the right to continue living. But also like abortion, there is someone or some people who are guilty of committing the wrongdoing. In other words, unlike with some traffic accidents, in both abortion and war, innocent humans lose their right to life and there is someone or some people who can be held responsible of the evil.
You, Boysda, admit that innocent lives are denied their right to live through abortion, but continue to support it. This is tantamount to, really it's worse than, supporting the aggressors in an unjust war. The reason it is worse is because unlike in some war, the only purpose it to terminate someone. Whether it is for selfish reasons, which it almost always is, or for medical reasons, the only outcome is that a baby - or according to your definition, sometimes a soon to be baby, dies. I know I'm not going change your mind, but I have to try. Hopefully someone walking the fence will read our discussions and fall to the right 'proper' side.
How do topics get closed anyway? I guess I could quit being lazy and go look in the forum rules.
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Abortion isn't comparable to traffic laws, not even close. People choose to travel. The laws, road designs, etc.. are all to attempt to make the road safer, so less folks kill them selves.
the studies are pretty unanimous that by raising an interstate speed limit from 55 to 65, highway fatalities will increase as a direct result. did the children in fatal traffic accidents choose to travel?
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War can be compared in someways, but it only further defines the moral implications of those who are pro-choice. As with Abortion, war will deny some innocent humans the right to continue living. But also like abortion, there is someone or some people who are guilty of committing the wrongdoing.
i'm sure the dead innocents feel much better that someone is accoutnable. moreover, you presume the just will always win a war.
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You, Boysda, admit that innocent lives are denied their right to live through abortion, but continue to support it.
i also support 65 mph speed limits. is the blood of those victims on my hand too?
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This is tantamount to, really it's worse than, supporting the aggressors in an unjust war. The reason it is worse is because unlike in some war, the only purpose it to terminate someone.
i am unaware of any war in history where the goal was not to kill someone.
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I know I'm not going change your mind, but I have to try.
Wub, reading the forum rules would be a good start.
I closed the abortion thread for two reasons: Mainly, because a banned person kept re-registering and trying to stir the pot; and also it seemed to have run it's course.
FWIW, I agree with your stance on abortion. Topics don't get closed for that reason either way though. Only mods or HNI administration can close a thread, and it's done due to rules violations, not personal opinions or whether or not we agree with the opinions stated.
Chad
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A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
i'm sure the dead innocents feel much better that someone is accoutnable. moreover, you presume the just will always win a war........
Well, maybe it just isn't comprehensible without religion. You can have the -second- last word. I only started this one because I didn't like the way the other tread was closed.
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The flying monkey seems to have run out of banannas, so I'll re-open the original, just in case ya'll have a few hundred more "last words".
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
Topic Closed???
