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Old 04-10-2010, 07:27 PM   #1
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Default Think Obamacare is bad? Check Out Some of Cap and Trade

Found this today......Please Joe, Say it aint so!! I would not doubt it's truth with this bunch in charge!


BOY, THINGS ARE GOING TO GET UGLY

Don't want to be bothered with "Political stuff?" You'd better read
this one. It will come as a huge shock to you if you aren't informed
as to what Obama is up to, and it has already passed one hurdle. It
will take very little now to put it into actual law!! YOU'D BETTER
WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!
So you think you live in a free country.
Boy have you got a surprise coming.

A License Required for your HOUSE?

If you own your home you really need to check this out. At the end of
this email is the Google link to verify. If the country thinks the
housing market is depressed now, wait until everyone sees this. No one
will be buying homes in the future.

We encourage you to read the provisions of the Cap and Trade Bill that
has passed the House of Representatives and are being considered by
the Senate. We are ready to join the next march on Washington ! This
Congress and their "experts" are truly out to destroy the middle class
of the U.S.A.

A License will be required for your house...no longer just for cars
and mobile homes....Thinking about selling your house? Take a look at
H.R. 2454 (Cap and Trade bill). This is unbelievable! Home owners
take note and tell your friends and relatives who are home owners!

Beginning one year after enactment of the Cap and Trade Act, you won't
be able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with the
energy and water efficiency standards of this "Cap & Trade" bill,
passed by the House of Representatives. If it is also passed by the
Senate, it will be the largest tax increase any of us has ever
experienced.

The Congressional Budget Office (supposedly non-partisan) estimates
that in just a few years the average cost to every family of four will
be $6,800 per year. No one is excluded. However, once the lower
classes feel the pinch in their wallets, you can be sure that these
voters will get a tax refund (even if they pay no taxes at all) to
offset this new cost. Thus, you Mr. And Mrs. Middle Class have to pay
even more since additional tax dollars will be needed to bail out
everyone else..

But wait. This awful bill (that no one in Congress has actually read)
has many more surprises in it. Probably the worst one is this: A year
from now you won't be able to sell your house without some
bureaucrat's OK. Yes, you read that right.

The caveat (there always is a caveat) is that if you have enough money
to make required major upgrades to your home, then you can sell it.
But, if not, then forget it. Even pre-fabricated homes ("mobile
homes") are included. In effect, this bill prevents you from selling
your home without the permission of the EPA administrator.

To get this permission, you will have to have the energy efficiency of
your home measured. Then the government will tell you what your new
energy efficiency requirement is and you will be required to make
modifications to your home under the retrofit provisions of this Act,
to comply with the new energy and water efficiency requirements.

Then you will have to get your home measured again and get a license
(called a "label" in the Act) that must be posted on your property to
show what your efficiency rating is; sort of like the Energy Star
efficiency rating label on your refrigerator or air conditioner. If
you don't get a high enough rating, you can't sell.

And, the EPA administrator is authorized to raise the standards every
year, even above the automatic energy efficiency increases built into
the Act. The EPA administrator, appointed by the President, will run
the Cap & Trade program (AKA the "American Clean Energy and Security
Act of 2009") and is authorized to make any future changes to the
regulations and standards he/she alone determines to be in the
government's best interest. Requirements are set low initially so the
bill will pass Congress. Then the Administrator can set new standards
every year.

The Act itself contains annual required increases in energy efficiency
for private and commercial residences and buildings. However, the EPA
administrator can set higher standards at any time. Sect. 202 -
Building Retrofit Program mandates a national retrofit program to
increase the energy efficiency of all existing homes across America .

Beginning one year after enactment of the Act, you won't be able to
sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with its energy and
water efficiency standards. You had better sell soon, because the
standards will be raised each year and will be really hard (expen$ive)
to meet in a few years. Oh, goody!

The Act allows the government to give you a grant of several thousand
dollars to comply with the retrofit program requirements IF you meet
certain energy efficiency levels. But, wait, the State can set
additional requirements on who qualifies to receive the grants. You
should expect requirements such as "can't have an income of more than
$50K per year", "home selling price can't be more than $125K", or
anything else to target the upper middle class (that includes YOU?)
and prevent you from qualifying for the grants.

Most of us won't get a dime and will have to pay the entire cost of
the retrofit out of our own pockets. More transfer of wealth, more
"change you can believe in." Sect. 204 - Building Energy Performance
Labeling Program establishes a labeling program that for each
individual residence will identify the achieved energy efficiency
performance for "at least 90 percent of the residential market within
5 years after the date of the enactment of this Act."

This means that within 5 years 90% of all residential homes in the
U.S. must be measured and labeled. The EPA administrator will get $50M
each year to enforce the labeling program. The Secretary of the
Department of Energy will get an additional $20M each year to help the
EPA. Some of this money will, of course, be spent on coming up with
tougher standards each year...

Oh, the label will be like a license for your car. You will be
required to post the label in a conspicuous location in your home and
will not be allowed to sell your home without having this label. And,
just like your car license, you will probably be required to get a new
label every so often - maybe every year.

But, the government estimates the cost of measuring the energy
efficiency of your home should only cost about $200 each time.
Remember what they said about the auto smog inspections when they
first started: that in California ? It would only cost $15. That was
when the program started. Now the cost is about $50 for the inspection
and certificate.

Expect the same from the home labeling program. Sect. 304 - Greater
Energy Efficiency in Building Codes establishes new energy efficiency
guidelines for the National Building Code and mandates at 304(d) that
one year after enactment of this Act, all state and local
jurisdictions must adopt the National Building Code energy efficiency
provisions or must obtain a certification from the federal government
that their state and/or local codes have been brought into full
compliance with the National Building Code energy efficiency
standards.

CHECK OUT a few of the sites;

Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home http://www.nachi.
org/forum/ f14/cap-and- trade-license- required- your-home- 44750/
HR2454 American Clean Energy & Security Act: http://www.govtrack
.us/congress/ bill.xpd? bill=h111- 2454
Cap & Trade A license required for your home:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/cap-and-...your-home.html
Cap and trade is a license to cheat and steal:
http://www.sfexamin er.com/opinion/ columns/oped_ contributors/
Cap-and-trade- is-a-license- to-cheat- and-steal- 45371937. html
Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2393940/posts
Thinking about selling you House? Look at HR 2454:
http://www.federalobserver.com/2009/...nd-trade-bill/


www.google.com/ search?hl= en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859- 1&q=A+License+
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Old 04-10-2010, 07:31 PM   #2
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I see the links at the end didn't survive. Let's see if they can this time.
Nope, still didn't. they should be intact here............they are





http://backcountryrebels.com/showthread.php?t=6797
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:35 AM   #3
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Relax, Osama won't get crap and slay until he legalizes the millions of latin American illegal invaders he needs to steal the next election, which won't happen unless his equally stupid supporters in ongress are willing to sacrifice themselves in the midterm elections so that he can pass immigration reform. Without 20M new dummocraps to reelect him in 2012 none of his other harebrained schemes stand a chance. Everything he's done so far has been straight out of the pinko playbook, any disruption to that dooms the succeeding goals.
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:57 PM   #4
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I'm waiting for the time when McMansions are outlawed. They'll force everyone out of their comfortable house and downsize into something around 1500 to 2500 sqft.
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Old 04-11-2010, 04:25 PM   #5
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Yeah that "backcountryrebels.com" URL pretty much HAS to be taken seriously.
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Old 04-11-2010, 05:48 PM   #6
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They will push Cap and Tax through using the EPA there will not even be a vote on it. Can you say dictator?
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Old 04-11-2010, 06:46 PM   #7
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Yeah that "backcountryrebels.com" URL pretty much HAS to be taken seriously.
Are you to be taken seriously on a site called "hunting net"? What the heck does the name of the web site have to do with the underlying facts about the cap and tax bill?

How about American Thinker?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...ations_he.html




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I'm waiting for the time when McMansions are outlawed. They'll force everyone out of their comfortable house and downsize into something around 1500 to 2500 sqft.
Every body except for Al Gore of course. He's got a regular mansion and will be exempt with all of the carbon credits he will will be selling to himself.
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Old 04-11-2010, 07:51 PM   #8
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The uninformed sock puppets, can from the comfort of their keyboards dream of a country running on wind, hydro, cold fusion, or a bank of flux capacitors wired up to a lightning rods screwed into their roofs, but it isn't going to happen anytime soon. Certainly not in their lifetime. Until they find their pants stuck to the seat of a leather chair, from the sweat of trying to orchestrate the generation of 800MW, safely, economically and enviromentally out onto the grid 24/7, with the State and the DEC watching every move you make, they havn't a clue about the topic, only what they've read from someone they do not know. Come work with me for a week, and you will have a better understanding of the industry. Who knows...if your any good at it, you can have my job. God knows, after 30 years, Iam burned out from it. Iam ready to be a door greeter at Walmart, no stress there they tell me. Cap and Trade. Go for it.

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Old 04-12-2010, 01:04 PM   #9
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Thats why they call them drive-bys BB.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:15 AM   #10
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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/in...c,65046.0.html
EPA to soon regulate CO2



Still think the EPA isn't a danger to our freedom? They couldn't go through congress, so they just went around Congress.

As if American companies aren't hurting enough, they are now going to regulate a perfectly harmless gas that is scientifically, in every way, beneficial to the environment.

Whey do we need elected Representatives again? What's the point when we have unelected fools in these organizations?

Why can't people see our country is already destroyed?
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