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Old 03-24-2010, 02:47 PM   #1
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And they wonder why we have 13+% unemployment.

So I'm in the process of getting my contractors license. Went to school to prepare for the law parts. Background check, fingerprinting etc...Went and took both the Law and Trade test Feb 3rd and passed both. Now they are saying I don't have enough experience for the trade I took the test for, even tho I passed it! I only have a year working for an "A" contractor and about 6 for a C-27 (landscaping) and even though the description for an "A" includes irrigation, drainage, trenching etc...none of that time counts! Good ole State screwing over a guy trying to do the right thing and be legal!!
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Old 03-24-2010, 03:23 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear- i bet its a big letdown & dishearting.


I know of a place or 2 that has much less taxes ,laws in general, is more business friendly, good hunting etc.

Though the unemployment rates have gone way up from what they where here a yr ago here -and with the goverments plans could get much worse to.

( i dont ussally incourage ppl to move here much at all- but if ppl will be moving here anyways - id rather have ppl like you , then more of the liberal hollywood types here)
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:05 PM   #3
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Yep I was in Encampment/Riverside Wyo last year hunting, but was also scouting out property!! The bad thing is I have work here for this gig and my other biz is also here...
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:15 PM   #4
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And they wonder why we have 13+% unemployment.

So I'm in the process of getting my contractors license. Went to school to prepare for the law parts. Background check, fingerprinting etc...Went and took both the Law and Trade test Feb 3rd and passed both. Now they are saying I don't have enough experience for the trade I took the test for, even tho I passed it! I only have a year working for an "A" contractor and about 6 for a C-27 (landscaping) and even though the description for an "A" includes irrigation, drainage, trenching etc...none of that time counts! Good ole State screwing over a guy trying to do the right thing and be legal!!
As a physician who had to get and now has to renew my medical license from the State of California I know what it is like jumping through all the hoops the state requires. Out of curiosity I went to the CSLB website and it does appear that there is a certain amount of overlap between the skills needed for an "A" license and C-27 license. The problem is that they probably have nor formula or procedure for converting a certain length of time of C-27 experience into "A" experience and rather than making the effort to try to do that, they just reject all of your C-27 experience even though you may have learned some "A" category skills.

On a positive note, if you just want to do landscaping jobs, if at least 4 of the 6 years you spent in a C-27 company was at the journeyman or higher level you already have enough experience for a C-27 specialty license.
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:59 PM   #5
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On a positive note, if you just want to do landscaping jobs, if at least 4 of the 6 years you spent in a C-27 company was at the journeyman or higher level you already have enough experience for a C-27 specialty license.
Yep I do have enough experience for the C-27, but I do lots of driveway sealing on the side that falls under the "A", but since it was on the side I can't really prove I have that experience, but would like to do that legally too...
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Old 03-24-2010, 05:36 PM   #6
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And they wonder why we have 13+% unemployment.

So I'm in the process of getting my contractors license. Went to school to prepare for the law parts. Background check, fingerprinting etc...Went and took both the Law and Trade test Feb 3rd and passed both. Now they are saying I don't have enough experience for the trade I took the test for, even tho I passed it! I only have a year working for an "A" contractor and about 6 for a C-27 (landscaping) and even though the description for an "A" includes irrigation, drainage, trenching etc...none of that time counts! Good ole State screwing over a guy trying to do the right thing and be legal!!
I understand the group that oversees this area has a new director who has vowed to change this sort of thing. Be sure to appeal, lady I know did and said the process is a pain in the *ss but it worked.
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:59 PM   #7
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I feel for you jeep. I enjoy doing electrical work. I would love to do it on the side on weekends for the simple stuff, add an outlet here, a ceiling fan there, a hot tube over there...... I can't get my license due to lack of proven years in the field. My EE degree only makes up 2 out of the 4 years required. Worst yet, someone who gets a 2 yr associates gets the same amount of credit. I told the people in the office that they must not have too much trust in their tests they give out since passing it doesn't mean jack. Anyway, I still do a little here and there on the side but I'm not in love with it enough to buy someone's business who is retiring and work under their license for the two years I need. You might want to consider doing that. I'm sure there are old farts ready to retire but no one to leave their business to.
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:20 AM   #8
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Yep I was in Encampment/Riverside Wyo last year hunting, but was also scouting out property!! The bad thing is I have work here for this gig and my other biz is also here...
Now that you mention it - i kinda remember you mentioning hunting near Encampment( sorta - bad memory i have).

Riverside- place of the states record low at minus -66 ( western part of the state tends to be colder but not always)

I miss taking the free hot springs bath in that area while elk hunting( its been more then a few yrs since i been down to the snowy range doing the elk hunting)

But anyways good luck on this issue & looking for property & any future hunting.
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:43 AM   #9
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I feel for you jeep. I enjoy doing electrical work. I would love to do it on the side on weekends for the simple stuff, add an outlet here, a ceiling fan there, a hot tube over there...... I can't get my license due to lack of proven years in the field.
JeepKid and FM, i feel for both of you. You can thank the IBEW and it's long tenacles that even reach into TX. My son is an independent contractor. He has many years experience as an industrial electrician. However, a few years ago TX enacted a law that requires a journeyman electrician to have 8 years experience as an apprentice. My son has never served an apprenticeship so he cannot do any electrical work.

Electrical shops in TX hire cheap labor as apprentices. TX law requires a journeyman electrician to work under the eye of a master electrician. Some shops do not even have a master electrician. They claim to have the name of some guy who can be called if the journeyman gets into trouble.

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Old 03-25-2010, 06:05 AM   #10
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I too, am trying to start a business.
Gov't Regs, and Red Tape, will not let me do anything.
You have to do this, you have to have that.
It,s got to the point, I need $250,000 to $500,000 to do any thing.
How can the small man, do any thing.
And the Gov't says they are here to help.

Yeah Right.
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