In all of their arrogance the slimeballs passed a big old bill that the American people were very much against. If we do not throw out every one of these bums then we deserve whatever else they stack on us. Get involved in your area and lets send these low life a skunks a message as to who they work for.
They passed the bank bailout which we didn't want and even osama voted for it, They passed the porkulus bill and the pork filled budget which the people did not want, now the communist health care bill, when do WE say enouigh?
Count me among the millions of Americans who favor the theory of health care reform but think this legislation is disastrous...from an economical standpoint and a constitutional standpoint.
There's lots of blame to go around. It's nothing I haven't said before, but if the Republicans had taken the initiative to address spiraling insurance premiums when they had a stranglehold on the legislative and executive branches just a few years ago, we wouldn't be having this conversation today. They ignored it, and here we are.
Tackling issues of insurance greed and, to some extent, the uninsured are admirable causes. This bill, though, is all wrong. There's plenty in it to gripe about, but these are the three things that piss me off righteously:
1.) The so-called "Cadillac tax" starts on individual plans over $27,500 if you're a union member...or on plans over $10,200 if you're one of us common folks. In other words, I'm going to be taxed more than my neighbor because he's a member of a union and I'm not. That's outrageous!
2.) It goes without saying that a federal mandate that Americans must have a government-approved health care plan is garbage and perhaps the single biggest overstep of government bounds of my lifetime.
3.) This bill cuts subsidies to insurance companies who provide private alternatives to Medicare. The CBO has confirmed Republican claims that this will drive a lot of seniors back to Medicare. So, essentially, seniors are being forced out of their private plan and onto the government rolls. And the media wonders why people are screaming socialism.
Speaking of the media, not nearly enough has been said about the fact that we're going to be hit twice by this: Once at the federal level and once at the state level. Obama and Pelosi can go on and on about how the new taxes from this will only affect those individuals making more than $200,000 or families making more than $250,000, but anyone with half a brain can see right through that. Employer mandates will cost us middle-class jobs. Taxes on medical equipment, prescription drugs and a host of other things will be a direct hit on middle-class wallets. And all the new taxes on investments will be felt directly by the middle-class.
At the state level, we're going to be taxed again to pay for the expansion of Medicaid. Our governor has estimated the cost to be $1.1 billion over the next five years and calls it the "mother of unfunded mandates." He's a Democrat, by the way. So how do you pay for it? State income taxes? Or do you say no to tax increases and start cutting higher education and other areas?
The Democrats are on the verge of setting this nation back 20 years in one fell swoop.
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Politics, it seems to me, all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour
There's lots of blame to go around. It's nothing I haven't said before, but if the Republicans had taken the initiative to address spiraling insurance premiums when they had a stranglehold on the legislative and executive branches just a few years ago, we wouldn't be having this conversation today. They ignored it, and here we are.
Gris, do you really think anything the Republicans would have done would have satisfied the lefts desire to take over the health care system. This is not even as far the left want to go. This bill don't have the public option in it right now, but they all believe this is the foundation for that goal. This bill is the first step at putting private insurance out of business. I would much rather deal with a private insurance company than the government. Even with this legislation that is about to be signed, the conversation will go on and on because they still have not achieved their goal of single payer universal health care.
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The Democrats are on the verge of setting this nation back 20 years in one fell swoop.
Aside from the advances in medicine that the private sector has given us, I would say were were better off 20 years ago than we are now.
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The only thing i remember is many ppl in this country have very short memorys.
I also know many love them for just this & these things to & for what they do.
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Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.-- Ovid (43 B.C.-A.D. 18)
Things ain't what they used to be and probably never was. ~Will Rogers
Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday.
"Shouldn't someone tag Mr. Kennedy's 'bold new imaginative program' with its proper age?" "Under the tousled boyish haircut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago.
There is nothing new in the idea of a government being Big Brother to us all. R.Reagan-1960
And if they can pass something like this that is pretty strongly opossed - they can very well pass many things in the future- like new gun laws etc etc
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Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.-- Ovid (43 B.C.-A.D. 18)
Things ain't what they used to be and probably never was. ~Will Rogers
Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday.
"Shouldn't someone tag Mr. Kennedy's 'bold new imaginative program' with its proper age?" "Under the tousled boyish haircut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago.
There is nothing new in the idea of a government being Big Brother to us all. R.Reagan-1960
Count me among the millions of Americans who favor the theory of health care reform but think this legislation is disastrous...from an economical standpoint and a constitutional standpoint.
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The only real reform would be one done by the industry and they refuse at their own peril.
Got 11 stitch's the other day on my finger. The bill is over 3000 dollars. The industry has turned over the control and are to blame for whatever comes. Just think of the repercussions, the down fall of the greatest nation the world has ever known, for what? Something they will not be able to hold on to. What they have taken will be taken. (I am not for it, I'm only stating what has happened and what may happen.)
Oil is next. During WWI the government took over the railroads, anyone who didn't do as they asked could ship nothing. To say the slightest thing against what the government was doing in many areas, some wanted hanged, they ended up in prison.
Count me among the millions of Americans who favor the theory of health care reform but think this legislation is disastrous...from an economical standpoint and a constitutional standpoint.
There's lots of blame to go around. It's nothing I haven't said before, but if the Republicans had taken the initiative to address spiraling insurance premiums when they had a stranglehold on the legislative and executive branches just a few years ago, we wouldn't be having this conversation today. They ignored it, and here we are.
This is where the problem is.. It was ignored for way to long, so here we are. We was one of the few modernized countries that did not have anything in the health care sector for helping our own people out. We do now, right or wrong it is a good place to start at.. The voice on this issue has fallen on death ears for to long.. Now at least it has been heard and listened to. Insurance companies have been ripping people off for way to long. Leaving a constant battle to get payments made out when needed.
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they can very well pass many things in the future- like new gun laws etc etc
That wouldn't happen as there is to many dems that hunt..
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they can very well pass many things in the future- like new gun laws etc etc
That wouldn't happen as there is to many dems that hunt..
Your right Phil- guns..is a pretty undefined thing.
Maybe yall dems & bo can "start with all non hunting guns"0- same ones the dems have been after for yes.
You know all the so called assult weapons, pistol ammo etc, not suited to hunting .
Seen as very" reasonalble gun control measures " by some.
Even seen a few here over the yrs who where happy as long as they where"allowed there hunting gun".
Even had my rep senata here tell me- dont worry there not after out " hunting guns" when clintoon was in office".
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Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.-- Ovid (43 B.C.-A.D. 18)
Things ain't what they used to be and probably never was. ~Will Rogers
Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday.
"Shouldn't someone tag Mr. Kennedy's 'bold new imaginative program' with its proper age?" "Under the tousled boyish haircut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago.
There is nothing new in the idea of a government being Big Brother to us all. R.Reagan-1960
Maybe yall dems & Bo can start with all the so called non hunting guns.
Same ones the dems have been after for yrs.
Those all guns & ammo deemed not suitable for hunting could be melted down?
Bet thats " resonable gun controls f"or some folks
But anyways im haveing a real hard time loading pages& posting-A real pain in the..%^* connects so cant say more or postright now
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Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.-- Ovid (43 B.C.-A.D. 18)
Things ain't what they used to be and probably never was. ~Will Rogers
Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday.
"Shouldn't someone tag Mr. Kennedy's 'bold new imaginative program' with its proper age?" "Under the tousled boyish haircut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago.
There is nothing new in the idea of a government being Big Brother to us all. R.Reagan-1960
They did it
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