Take 10 minutes of your life and remember what we are and how we got here. This is a very good clip that many have forgot. Are we a republic or democracy ....?? Big difference. Does this look like the road we are on...it does to me.
I'd rather read it than view it, then what is said can be checked. It is clear the historian is trying to make a statement to support a current view instead of simply declare history, one reason I don't care much for recently written history.
It was informative and right on the money when it claimed how important the history of the world was to those who put our government together. He also was right that our laws are to limit governments power not define the peoples rights, so when someone says no where does our law say we have a right to X as long as it doesn't say we don't, we do, it's implied.
Driving a car is a right and anyone who says it isn't needs to prove it. Where does it say it isn't? No where! Franklin was right "A republic if you can keep it!" How much money has been spent to educate a society that has turned out so historically ignorant? I think if that aspect of history is looked at it will declare that is how a republic turns into the other forms of government. If Franklin could add something to his statement it would be, know history as we have known it.
I disagree that no government is anarchy, even he claimed anarchy breeds government. Government is the result of a failed society, the lack of it doesn't mean society will fail. It is not needed unless society fails. Society maybe more free with it but that doesn't mean they will be free indeed, they will be ruled but limited.
The assumption that a society without a government is anarchy is just not true. A society without a code of conduct would be. Having said that I can't really say we are born with anything that would cause us to be able to have that code without being forced to adhere to one. In that the bible is once again proven true, "there's none good, no not one". It also proves that the founders based their need for some government on that statement thus making us at least a religious nation and most likely a Christian one since I don't believe any other religion makes that statement.
The bible is also proven true in that it says government is put on earth to punish wrong behavior. In the case made about anarchy it is clear that the government that comes from that state isn't a good one but it does punish wrong behavior so the answer to not letting it get that way is good behavior. That can only come from, in our case and in every case where history was available historical education and the Will to do what it takes.
A republic is only as good as the laws that make it up. We could have a republic that had limited power and chose to take only a small number of new borns to sacrifice on an alter like the Aztecs. A republic based on good laws and there is none save God, is the best we can hope for in a government. There's only one way to keep that government and that's to remember where those laws come from, God. Remove Him and the reasons for the good laws have no cahonies. When that happens mini gods spring up and fight for control which is as the video points out anarchy.
Nice history lesson, and there are those today that seek to destroy what we worked so hard to achieve since the landing on Plymouth Rock. But I still have faith in Americans, not the government. We became great not because of the government, but in spite of the government. Today people are disgruntled and our country is going through turmoil. Does this mean that we are doomed? God forbid, we are not doomed but will arise to get us back on track by whatever means necessary at our disposal. The Tea Party Movement is only the tip of the iceberg; other groups will spawn to insure our very existence. Will it get violent, only time will tell? Americans will speak their peace next November if laws have been instituted taking us via the wrong course, laws will be repealed and we will overcome. I'm confident that all the lives that have been lost to insure our freedom have not been lost in vain. This forum is typical of what I hear in the streets all over the United States, people are voicing their opinions and are sick and tired of the direction we are headed, but I’m confident that we will overcome! Be it a Democracy or a Republic!
I also believe in America but I think it is doomed. Americans are too arrogant in their beliefs that nothing could ever happen to us. We are bankrupt and our government is taking us down a road of no return. Just like the great Rome fell, so will we. We are giving the government more control every day and many want it that way. Until I see otherwise....I have little hope for us.
Just like the great Rome fell, so will we. We are giving the government more control every day and many want it that way. Until I see otherwise....I have little hope for us.
more like the Spartans but the roman idea could be truer than understood. Many believe the last government will be Roman like, and ours certainly is that. I remember hearing some debate where Henry Hide claimed our law was taken from Roman law. I thought, well, there's another piece of the puzzle. Don't even for a second think he or many others knew what he was attempting to prove. To be fair many past times believed they were the end and weren't and they had just as good a reason as we do, i keep trying to dismiss it but the evidence keeps mounting up.
I think the biggest problem in America has been ambivalence. Americans have been busy pursuing the American dream....two income families trying to have more and keep up with the Joneses. We've been too busy to notice that things are crumbling beneath us. The Judeo-Christian ethic is being dismantled and replaced with ugliness. The family has been crumbling for some time now. Still, I see signs that people are starting to notice that we are going down the wrong path. I just hope we haven't wandered off so far that we can't find our way back.
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I think the biggest problem in America has been ambivalence. Americans have been busy pursuing the American dream....two income families trying to have more and keep up with the Joneses. We've been too busy to notice that things are crumbling beneath us. The Judeo-Christian ethic is being dimantled and replaced with ugliness. The family has been crumbling for some time now. Still, I see signs that people are starting to notice that we are going down the wrong path. I just hope we haven't wandered off so far that we can't find our way back.
Amen, I agree 100%, and hope we haven't wandered too far away, but all evidence points to it.
I do not know this guy or the book he quotes. I don't believe he knows me or has ever been any where I've communicated any ideas of mine. He has I believe just seen what there is to see. This was his "Letter to the Editor" in a local paper. I like the sound of it.
"WHAT CAN THE RIGHTEOUS DO?
Dr. David Gibbs Jr., president of The Christian Law Association, has written a book "One Nation Under God." The book documents the Christian principles that our founding fathers used to establish America's Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. A comparison of the histories of the American and French revolutions was made since both started within a decade of each other over 200 years ago.
Jeremiah 17:9 says, "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked: who can know it?" This verse of scripture was a guiding reference used to set up our government system of checks and balances. Since its inception, our nation has been successfully ruled by one constitution.
The concept that set up the French government was based on the assumption that man is basically good and so could successfully function by his own rules. France went through a bloody revolution as it was being started and it continued after it was established. It has also had several changed constitutions. France's basic philosophy of man's goodness has been shot down by man's sinfulness and ineptness.
The socialistic practice of replacing individual choice and responsibility with government control is taking precedent in America, and our constitutional laws are being attacked and compromised in the process. One example that shows sin's blinding effect on our government is its use of taxpayer money to fund abortion.
Our national government and our citizens would do well to learn the lessons of history and heed the warning given in Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation but sin is a reproach to any people" and to Psalm 11:13, "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?"
A very good history leason
