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Old 03-03-2010, 04:44 AM   #1
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Default Rapist Charged in Death Of CA Teenager

A registered sex offender has been charged with the murder of a 17 year old high school honor student. The scumbag plead guilty to molesting a 13 year old girl in 2000. He could have been sentenced to 11 years in prison under the terms of his plea deal with the prosecutor. However, the prosecutor insisted that a six year sentence was right. i am of the opinion that a prosecutor is supposed to look out for the rights of the victim and society. This is another case of prosecutor misconduct.

In December of 09 the scumbag attacked a 22 year old woman who positively identified him. Yep, the prosecutor left him on the street after this latest attack. How many passes does a child sexual predator get in CA before the "justice" system gets serious?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100303/...VsbG5ic3BzdG9y

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Many were at a loss for words over the discovery of a body believed to be that of 17-year-old Chelsea King, five days after the popular, straight-A student from San Diego County disappeared and two days after a registered sex offender was booked on suspicion of rape and murder.

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He had faced a maximum of nearly 11 years in prison under terms of a plea agreement but prosecutors urged six years. A psychiatrist who interviewed Gardner, Dr. Matthew Carroll, wanted a stiffer punishment, saying in court documents that he was a "continued danger to underage girls in the community."
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I don't understand why a prosecutor would advocate a lesser sentence than that allowed for by the plea bargain. Some sort of under the table agreement I would suggest. A 13-year old? This is a sick man and should have been confined until he is too old to function. A girl had to lose her life because we, as a society, don't care enough to DEMAND that these guys be put away.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:28 PM   #3
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Nearly any child molestor will tell you that they completely lack control over their lusts, and will repeatedly molest unless stopped. They'll also attest that there is no such thing as "rehabilitation" for what drives them, even the ones who are subjected to chemical castration frequently get caught molesting kids in some other fashion. The only sure cure for them is to absolutely remove their ability to access kids, either via life without parole, or execution. I know what my choice would be.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:40 PM   #4
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The badguys get off easy, and then we have teens sexting or hooking up with their underage girlf who also get labeled as a sex offender. Personally I think we need some sex offender reform. A national age of consent. I think there's a huge difference from the hs senior who becomes a sex offender for dating a freshmen than this guy who lures a 13yo to his house then punches her in the face and tries to rape her, as well as the 50yo men with 10yr olds.
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The badguys get off easy, and then we have teens sexting or hooking up with their underage girlf who also get labeled as a sex offender. Personally I think we need some sex offender reform. A national age of consent. I think there's a huge difference from the hs senior who becomes a sex offender for dating a freshmen than this guy who lures a 13yo to his house then punches her in the face and tries to rape her, as well as the 50yo men with 10yr olds.
Bingo!

Is there anything morally wrong about a 18 yar old male and a 15 year old female?

What about 20 and 15?

17 and 14?

20 and 14?

How come the judge gets to draw the line?
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:35 PM   #6
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The only sure cure for them is to absolutely remove their ability to access kids, either via life without parole, or execution. I know what my choice would be.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:56 PM   #7
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I don't understand why a prosecutor would advocate a lesser sentence than that allowed for by the plea bargain. Some sort of under the table agreement I would suggest. A 13-year old? This is a sick man and should have been confined until he is too old to function. A girl had to lose her life because we, as a society, don't care enough to DEMAND that these guys be put away.
This guy was barely older than the victim with no priors in the first case and I understand there were some problems with the case that would have caused issues at trial. Unfortunately, it took another couple of victims (that we know of) to finally get the slug. A bright spot, if there is any here, is a murder in the course of a rape is a death penalty offense. California is currently under federal court order to "reform" it's prisons and it looks as if that will be accomplished by giving 6,500+/- "non-violent" inmates an early release, ..... so I suspect we haven't seen anything yet!
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This guy was barely older than the victim with no priors in the first case and I understand there were some problems with the case that would have caused issues at trial.
Your math is kind of fuzzy. The scumbag is now 30 years old. In 1999 he was 19 years old. His victim was 13 years old; she was badly beaten as well as molested. There was a 1999 case previous to this one, 14 year old was molested; the police and/or prosecutor dropped the ball on that one.

Let's look at the ways the cops and/or the prosecutor blew it on this scumbag:

1. The scumbag was not charged for the attack on the 14 year old in 1999.

2. The bleeding heart prosecutor cut a plea deal with the scumbag. The bleeding heart prosecutor recommended a 6 year sentence for the scumbag when he could have gotten 11 years. The shrink said that the scumbag would re-offend after he got out and that an appropriate sentence would be 30 years.

3. A girl who testified against the scumbag in the 1999 case was never notified that the scumbag was back in the area when he was released from prison.

4. A 14 year old went missing in that area last year and the scumbag was never questioned on that one.

5. A 22 year old jogger was attacked 3 months ago. The cops dropped the ball on that one. The excuse: "Because the woman went back to CO."

This makes me wanna puke.

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What is the actual cost of a pair of .22 slugs? under .50c combined?
I think we have a solution.

Get CONVICTED for MULTIPLE sexual assaults, and get executed within 90 days of conviction.
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Your math is kind of fuzzy. The scumbag is now 30 years old. In 1999 he was 19 years old. His victim was 13 years old; she was badly beaten as well as molested. There was a 1999 case previous to this one, 14 year old was molested; the police and/or prosecutor dropped the ball on that one.

Let's look at the ways the cops and/or the prosecutor blew it on this scumbag:

1. The scumbag was not charged for the attack on the 14 year old in 1999.

2. The bleeding heart prosecutor cut a plea deal with the scumbag. The bleeding heart prosecutor recommended a 6 year sentence for the scumbag when he could have gotten 11 years. The shrink said that the scumbag would re-offend after he got out and that an appropriate sentence would be 30 years.

3. A girl who testified against the scumbag in the 1999 case was never notified that the scumbag was back in the area when he was released from prison.

4. A 14 year old went missing in that area last year and the scumbag was never questioned on that one.

5. A 22 year old jogger was attacked 3 months ago. The cops dropped the ball on that one. The excuse: "Because the woman went back to CO."

This makes me wanna puke.
I'm not trying to defend the suspect or the San Diego County D.A., it makes me want to puke too and I've been dealing with it for 36 years. What I'm telling you is that's how the decision was made. If it was up to me it would be "CBR," (crushing big rocks) they would all live in tents, be issued sledge hammers and become 12 hour a day gravel making machines for the duration of their sentence. However, the federal appellate courts have ordered us to "improve overcrowding" in our prisons and that equates to releasing inmates and making deals with charged suspects. This is just the start of the problem, you haven't seen anything yet.
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