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Old 02-08-2010, 10:15 AM   #1
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Default In light of the junk science on Global Warming. When it threatens the purse strings

Just make another. Read this article and see if you get the same impression I did. That impression is that the conclusion has been formed, so we are going to create another Bureaucracy to pump money in to spout the conclusion rather than truly investigate the “problem”. Just my impression. Besides, how much more money can we spend to try to push the liberal agenda. China has cut us off, where is the money going to come from?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...+Politics%2529


Surly their minds are not made up, are they???

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Whether we like it or not, climate change represents a real threat," Locke said Monday at a news conference.
Lubchenco added, "Climate change is real, it's happening now." She said climate information is vital to the wind power industry, coastal community planning, fishermen and fishery managers, farmers and public health officials.
No agenda in those words. So lets pump more cash into what most are already studying.



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Old 02-08-2010, 10:29 AM   #2
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Seems to me that science is the new politics. No suprise--greed and power corrupt. Won't be long before it will be as hard to find an honest scientist as it is to find an honest politician, and if you can find one they won't be able to get anything done.
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Seems to me that science is the new politics. No suprise--greed and power corrupt. Won't be long before it will be as hard to find an honest scientist as it is to find an honest politician, and if you can find one they won't be able to get anything done.
Obama recently cut funding to NASA for any further moon missions, their new focus will be envornmental studies, particularly climate and carbon. These jokers aren't going to let go of this bone until we fire the lot of them.
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:07 AM   #4
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Obama recently cut funding to NASA for any further moon missions, their new focus will be envornmental studies, particularly climate and carbon. These jokers aren't going to let go of this bone until we fire the lot of them.
I did not put those two together. Very true.
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Old 02-08-2010, 05:31 PM   #5
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"Climate change is real, it's happening now."
Well no **** Sherlock. Climate change has been happening since the Earth was formed billions of years ago. It isn't going to stop just because it's 2010 and Al Gore said so.

How in the hell do such stupid and ignorant people get to such high level positions in the world?
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How in the hell do such stupid and ignorant people get to such high level positions in the world?
That is an easy question, because there were plenty of stupid people that listen to stupidity.
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Whats amazing is the fact that the whole Climate Change fantasy is imploding on itself with people coming foward and admitting the doctoring of invalid data and owning up to pushing this lie down the road, and still Barry wants to push the issue. Either he's tone deaf, has an agenda, or plain dumb as a bag of rocks, at any rate the mid-terms are approching, he knows it, and his hot air balloon has holes in it. Simple truth is, people now see through him. Sadly this man has never had an original thought, he's spoon fed information by his handlers, and little by little we are learning who they are.
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"Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains." a reasonable translation of the opening sentence of Jean Jacques Rousseau's Social Contract. I assume the ". . . in chains . . . " part is in reference to the remaining vestiges of feudalism in France and elsewhere when Rousseau was writing, circa 1760. Also, there would be other forms of bondage related to the remaining vestiges of the monarchy and the ancien regime, again not just in France but elsewhere. And I'm only using the term "vestige" because I'm not sure how solid these bonds were, but I think they were significant.

We in the United States and other free Democrat nations are lucky that our forebears, one way or another, freed themselves from these chains. We may not be so lucky, however, in the future. It seems to me an argument could be made that the various governmental forces we see are tending toward removing our freedoms and again placing us in chains. Different kinds of chains, but chains nonetheless. The most consistent aspect of the anthropogenic global warming (AGW) program is using AGW as a pretext to take money from us. Another consistent aspect is the project to create new quasi-governmental bodies with governing/regulatory authority. Do your own thinking, ask yourself if the AGW project passes the smell test?

True science is intensely quantitative. The numbers of the AGW project lack good quantification. Their numbers are all over the map, they are frankly not believable, and often times lately they have been shown to be totally baseless and unrepeatable, hence speculative.
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Whats amazing is the fact that the whole Climate Change fantasy is imploding on itself with people coming foward and admitting the doctoring of invalid data and owning up to pushing this lie down the road, and still Barry wants to push the issue. Either he's tone deaf, has an agenda, or plain dumb as a bag of rocks, at any rate the mid-terms are approching, he knows it, and his hot air balloon has holes in it. Simple truth is, people now see through him. Sadly this man has never had an original thought, he's spoon fed information by his handlers, and little by little we are learning who they are.
Barry has a most decided agenda, he has a stake in the only carbon credit exchange in the US, and probably the euro one as well. By some estimates he could become the first POTUS to leave office a billionaire if he gets his way, now you know why he pushes so hard to ram his agenda through Congress before the midterm elections rob him of the opportunity. Considering the huge number of pols helping him ram it through without even reading the bills it's a fair bet that most of them are feeding at the same trough.
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Obama recently cut funding to NASA for any further moon missions, their new focus will be envornmental studies, particularly climate and carbon. These jokers aren't going to let go of this bone until we fire the lot of them.
There is little scientific value in further Moon missions and if they are manned space flights they would be a particularly poor use of NASA resources. Keeping humans alive in space and on the Moon is a daunting task and therefore adds enormous costs to the space vehicles with little or no capability to do more science gained from having them manned. I think a much better use of resources will be the scheduled launch in 2014 of the James Webb Space Telescope that will have a 6.5 meter primary mirror compared to only 2.4 meters for the Hubble Space Telescope. The telescope will orbit in the L2 position between the Earth and Sun and should be able to make observations of the formation of the first galaxies in the aftermath of the Big Bang. While manned missions may be exciting to the public, scientists have learned much more about the Universe from the unmanned probes we have sent into space.
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