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Old 02-02-2010, 10:02 AM   #1
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Climate Researchers Manipulated and Hid Data


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Climate-gate has struck again: A new investigation reveals crucial flaws in data about climate change, as well as attempts by leading researchers to cover up their own mistakes.



Professor Phil Jones asked a colleague to delete emails relating to a report by the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Climate-gate has struck again: A new investigation reveals crucial flaws in data about climate change, as well as attempts by leading researchers to cover up their own mistakes.
The study by London paper The Guardian relies upon e-mails leaked by hackers from the University of East Anglia's climatic research unit (CRU). The paper found serious flaws in measurements from Chinese weather stations, noting that documents from them could not be produced.
The leaked e-mails revealed that those monitoring stations were moved several times, meaning data from them may be unreliable. This data was key evidence behind the claim that the growth of cities (which are warmer than countryside) isn't a factor in global warming and was cited by the U.N.'s embattled climate science body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, to bolster statements about rapid global warming in recent decades.
Worse, adds The Guardian, CRU chief scientist Phil Jones withheld information requested under freedom of information laws. Subsequently a senior colleague told him he feared that Jones's collaborator, Wei-Chyung Wang of the University at Albany-SUNY, had "screwed up," adds the paper.
The story points out that of 105 freedom of information requests to the university concerning the climatic research unit (CRU), which Jones headed up to the end of December, only 10 had been released in full.
Revelations on the inadequacies of this global warming data do not undermine the case that humans are causing climate change, and other studies have produced similar findings. But they do call into question the probity of some climate-change science and are certainly embarrassing for Jones.
The apparent attempts to cover up problems with temperature data from the Chinese weather stations provide the first link between the e-mail scandal and the U.N.'s embattled climate science body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, as a paper based on the measurements was used to bolster IPCC statements about rapid global warming in recent decades, explains The Guardian.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:22 AM   #2
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Wonder if Al Gore will pay back his billions he made from this hoax. Im still waiting for some one to buy my carbon credits. Ive got over 600 achers doing nothing but growing the natural flora. Why does Gore only get to sale his credits? Oh yea, he sales them back to himself so he can set in a room lavishing in the flavor of his own farts.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:02 AM   #3
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These climate change freaks have really stuck their foot in their mouth a lot lately. I think their scheme is coming apart fast.

I don't like to see our environment abused and I thing most of us as hunters favor conservation and I would like to see good alternative fuels but these Nuts crying wolf all of the time cause more harm than good. If there ever was to be a real climate crisis, who they hell would believe them now?
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Now, Now, we can't pass judgement on the atmospheric scientists since most (if not all) of us do not have the advanced math skills it takes to do an educated peer review.

I do think most of us can make a judgement on honesty though. I personally think their math is telling them the world does not need their job. Why else do they have to lie.

The real question is does the lying carry over to other fields of science that are propped up by a political agenda?

They better regain their credibility quick.

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Old 02-02-2010, 12:50 PM   #5
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What bothers me most is their shabby attempt to bend the whole world to their views by force of social engineering. While I won't deny that we could certainly treat Spaceship Earth a little better than we do,it was no surprise that scumbags would come out of the woodwork and try to force us into an unsustainable lifestyle just so that one camp could gloat and the other could turn us into virtual slaves for their profit. Now that the lights are finally on the roaches are scurrying for cover as fast as their dirty little legs can carry them. Here's hoping that there's a huge can of Raid™ in all of their rotten futures.
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Old 02-03-2010, 02:31 AM   #6
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We should remember though, that climate change is real and the effects can be seen over the millions of years of earth history. The LIE is that we humans are causing it. We have to be adamant in our opposition to that propaganda lest we wind up with the socialist scum controlling our lives.



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The real question is does the lying carry over to other fields of science that are propped up by a political agenda?
If there is money and/or power involved, no doubt there is--with or without politics. Politics being involved just further verifies it.
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:44 AM   #8
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If there is money and/or power involved, no doubt there is--with or without politics. Politics being involved just further verifies it.
Speaking of which:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...-+SciTech%2529

Who wants to bet that they side with the ones signing their paychecks?
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Old 02-03-2010, 09:26 AM   #9
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"Science" is becoming the new politics. I used parenthesis because I don't want to offend any real scientists, who still stick to those old outdated ideas of sticking to the facts, fact trumping theory, data not being slanted by who's footing the bill, etc.

With universities being taken over by liberals, I guess it should come as no suprise.
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