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Old 01-29-2010, 06:40 AM   #1
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I kinda want to see where everyone stands on Franklin Delano Roosevelt as a president. I know it is pretty random, but he has had very far reaching effects in this country, and i would like people point of view on him, as a president and his policies. takes us off of obama for a while at least.
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Old 01-29-2010, 06:47 AM   #2
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Another liberal progressive. All we can comment on is his legacy, but from all that I have read he was about as liberal and progressive as they come. He was just as big a liar as Obama is among other things. But let's let the dead rest in peace.
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Well, he pretty much saved the world from the Axis powers when he sent US troops to fight them, so his legacy surely can't be all that bad. But of course he was a democrat so none of you can possibly give him any credit. LOL
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Well, he pretty much saved the world from the Axis powers when he sent US troops to fight them, so his legacy surely can't be all that bad. But of course he was a democrat so none of you can possibly give him any credit. LOL
Hello, Great Britain and France were begging for the USA to enter the war well before 12/7/41, it was FDR that refused and only offered logistical support.
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I personally feel that he extended the depression with his temporary jobs programs funded by the peoples tax dollar.
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Well, he pretty much saved the world from the Axis powers when he sent US troops to fight them, so his legacy surely can't be all that bad. But of course he was a democrat so none of you can possibly give him any credit. LOL
I can only speak for me, but my dislike for FDR was all about policy. Had nothing to do with party. Heck, I felt JFK was a good guy. JFK had a conservative side to him. He was not quite the same as the left leaning Demos, and far removed from Teddy the killer. For me it is an ideology rather than a party. There are many Republicans I dont care for due to ideology not party.
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thndr, don't confuse steve with the facts. It blurs his rosey glasses.
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Hello, Great Britain and France were begging for the USA to enter the war well before 12/7/41, it was FDR that refused and only offered logistical support.
Not entirely true. The American people were adamantly opposed to entering "the war in Europe", not FDR himself since several of our allies were screaming for help as you said. Congress was also facing reelection, so public opinion weighed heavily on their minds. It took Pearl Harbor and ***an and Germany declaring war on us to get Congress to declare war, at the behest of the now enraged American public. Up until that point FDR could only offer logistical support, he couldn't send troops.
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Hello, Great Britain and France were begging for the USA to enter the war well before 12/7/41, it was FDR that refused and only offered logistical support.
I believe FDR wanted to directly intervene in Europe before 12/7/41 but he was constrained by public opinion. You have to consider that the heavy casualties suffered by U.S. forces in Europe during WW1 were still a living memory for most Americans in 1940 and, as a result, isolationism was a very strong force in American politics. It took a devastating attack on U.S. territory to obtain a declaration of war from Congress on 12/8/41 and that was only against ***an. It was not until one day later that Germany, acting in solidarity with its ally ***an, declared war on the United States, thereby making the U.S. a participant in the war in Europe as well.
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