BHO has been continuing to use the drones to strike Al Qaeda. (I have to give him an attaboy on that). These terrorist he is striking in his eyes are only suspects not terrorist. Innoucent people are also killed. To sum it all up, they don't get a lawyer, they don't get a trial. They just get a toe tag. On the other hand, he is givng those terrorist like KSM and this most recent terrorist, a lawyer, marranda, a 300 million dollar show trial with a promise that whether or not KSM is found guilty or not they will never release him. These two different treatments don't square with one another. Why not accept the fact we are at war and this all needs to be handled in the military setting not civilian setting.
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And if Cheney wasn't more interested in taking away your constitutional rights they too would have tried captives. Any criminal attcking people in the US should be tried. Bush declaring "WAR" on terrorism has nothing to do with this.
See the problem here is that the terrorists are slowly winning. As americans we are slowly being stripped of our rights by the terrorists all for the sake of safety.
Proving to the world that we are a much greater country and have a legal system that tries criminals that commit crimes in the US is a lot more important than all of the Rep's standing up against any decision that BHO and company make.
Our country will be here for 1000's of years. Let's not let 20 guys that had a great plan ruin it for all of us and our great grandchildren.
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I love the drone strikes.
They can only hear it coming when it is too late.
Why would a liberal enjoy the taking of life with no miranda, lawyers, and trial.
I too love the drone strikes, just playing off the liberal stance.
Kevin
You are right, but the president can stop them. Isnt the point F.M. made ironic. The president insists on extending right to those who have confessed to trying to kill us. Even to non Americans? If we caught said drone victum, before they were killed, they would be mirandad, and given a lawyer. With a drone strike, they are judged, tried, and killed with the press of a button. Is that not going agianst everything Obama has said about extending a hand? If things like Gitmo is used as a recruiting tool, isnt the drone practice, with inoccent deaths, more of one.
Like I said, I like the drone strikes, just pointing out the liberal double talk by the POTUS.
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Proving to the world that we are a much greater country and have a legal system that tries criminals that commit crimes in the US is a lot more important than all of the Rep's standing up against any decision that BHO and company make.
Our country will be here for 1000's of years. Let's not let 20 guys that had a great plan ruin it for all of us and our great grandchildren.
This IS the problem, they AREN'T criminals, they're "Enemy Combatants" and the two systems are very different. The former is subject to the criminal justice system and entitled to trial in a criminal court. The latter is subject to the UCMJ or whatever treaty applies (up until the Korean war we shot people like this) and military tribunals. The Supreme Court has ratified this system and process. Placing these people in the civilian system is a MAJOR mistake. I have full faith in NYPD, Detroit PD and the Illinois Dept. of Corrections but assaulting the court and escape are the least of the problems. Wait 'till the Jihadists take over an elementary school like they did in Russia and see if the civil libertarians get the idea. Then let them decide if "bringing them to justice" (God I hate that phrase!!!) is worth it.
This IS the problem, they AREN'T criminals, they're "Enemy Combatants" and the two systems are very different. The former is subject to the criminal justice system and entitled to trial in a criminal court. The latter is subject to the UCMJ or whatever treaty applies (up until the Korean war we shot people like this) and military tribunals. The Supreme Court has ratified this system and process. Placing these people in the civilian system is a MAJOR mistake. I have full faith in NYPD, Detroit PD and the Illinois Dept. of Corrections but assaulting the court and escape are the least of the problems. Wait 'till the Jihadists take over an elementary school like they did in Russia and see if the civil libertarians get the idea. Then let them decide if "bringing them to justice" (God I hate that phrase!!!) is worth it.
Not only that but they are covered under Supreme Court rulings from the 50's that state they are enemy combatants and not under the jurisdiction of our criminal court system. They aren't on US soil and under the geneva convention they are defined as enemy combatants.
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I love the drone strikes.
They can only hear it coming when it is too late.
How can you say that Will and demand they get constitutional rights to a criminal trial? When exactly are they tried before they are executed by a drone strike?
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Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Wait 'till the Jihadists take over an elementary school like they did in Russia......
If that were to happen, there is no doubt in my mind that this president would be totally teed off. He would hold his press conference in his usual cold fashion, and declare that now we are really going to close gitmo.
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Will you start almost every post by pointing fingers at the conservative party. You're so politically blinded your dripping of it! You'd follow a Democrap straignt to hell, just because they are from the left!
If that were to happen, there is no doubt in my mind that this president would be totally teed off. He would hold his press conference in his usual cold fashion, and declare that now we are really going to close gitmo.
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You forgot to add "...I will hold a security summit. It will include some very smart people, experts on man made catastrophies. This will be a transparent process. I will ensure there are plenty of TV news cameras while I'm at the podium reading from Mr. Teleprompter the results of our three two hour brainstorming session is small work groups. Rest assured, I have already ordered in linch, so this will be a working lunch. As it turns out, we have extra Kobe beef and Australian lobster tail leftover from all our parties. I have ordered them to save the taxpayer money and cook the Kobe beef and Australian lobster tail for the meeting.
Thank you, sorry no questions, I have an 11am tee time that I will be late for."
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"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
O'reilly put it in perspective last night
