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Old 11-17-2009, 11:08 AM   #1
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Medicalizing mass murder

By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, November 13, 2009

What a surprise -- that someone who shouts "Allahu Akbar" (the "God is great" jihadist battle cry) as he is shooting up a room of American soldiers might have Islamist motives. It certainly was a surprise to the mainstream media, which spent the weekend after the Fort Hood massacre playing down Nidal Hasan's religious beliefs.

"I cringe that he's a Muslim. . . . I think he's probably just a nut case," said Newsweek's Evan Thomas. Some were more adamant. Time's Joe Klein decried "odious attempts by Jewish extremists . . . to argue that the massacre perpetrated by Nidal Hasan was somehow a direct consequence of his Islamic beliefs." While none could match Klein's peculiar cherchez-le-juif motif, the popular story line was of an Army psychiatrist driven over the edge by terrible stories he had heard from soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.
They suffered. He listened. He snapped.


Really? What about the doctors and nurses, the counselors and physical therapists at Walter Reed Army Medical Center who every day hear and live with the pain and the suffering of returning soldiers? How many of them then picked up a gun and shot 51 innocents?
And what about civilian psychiatrists -- not the Upper West Side therapist treating Woody Allen neurotics, but the thousands of doctors working with hospitalized psychotics -- who every day hear not just tales but cries of the most excruciating anguish, of the most unimaginable torment? How many of those doctors commit mass murder?
It's been decades since I practiced psychiatry. Perhaps I missed the epidemic.
But, of course, if the shooter is named Nidal Hasan, who National Public Radio reported had been trying to proselytize doctors and patients, then something must be found. Presto! Secondary post-traumatic stress disorder, a handy invention to allow one to ignore the obvious.
And the perfect moral finesse. Medicalizing mass murder not only exonerates. It turns the murderer into a victim, indeed a sympathetic one. After all, secondary PTSD, for those who believe in it (you won't find it in DSM-IV-TR, psychiatry's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual), is known as "compassion fatigue." The poor man -- pushed over the edge by an excess of sensitivity.
Have we totally lost our moral bearings? Nidal Hasan (allegedly) cold-bloodedly killed 13 innocent people. His business card had his name, his profession, his medical degrees and his occupational identity. U.S. Army? No. "SoA" -- Soldier of Allah. In such cases, political correctness is not just an abomination. It's a danger, clear and present.
Consider the Army's treatment of Hasan's previous behavior. NPR's Daniel Zwerdling interviewed a Hasan colleague at Walter Reed about a hair-raising grand rounds that Hasan had apparently given. Grand rounds are the most serious academic event at a teaching hospital -- attending physicians, residents and students gather for a lecture on an instructive case history or therapeutic finding.
I've been to dozens of these. In fact, I gave one myself on post-traumatic retrograde amnesia -- as you can see, these lectures are fairly technical. Not Hasan's. His was an hour-long disquisition on what he called the Koranic view of military service, jihad and war. It included an allegedly authoritative elaboration of the punishments visited upon nonbelievers -- consignment to hell, decapitation, having hot oil poured down your throat. This "really freaked a lot of doctors out," reported NPR.
Nor was this the only incident. "The psychiatrist," reported Zwerdling, "said that he was the kind of guy who the staff actually stood around in the hallway saying: Do you think he's a terrorist, or is he just weird?"
Was anything done about this potential danger? Of course not. Who wants to be accused of Islamophobia and prejudice against a colleague's religion?
One must not speak of such things. Not even now. Not even after we know that Hasan was in communication with a notorious Yemen-based jihad propagandist. As late as Tuesday, The New York Times was running a story on how returning soldiers at Fort Hood had a high level of violence.
What does such violence have to do with Hasan? He was not a returning soldier. And the soldiers who returned home and shot their wives or fellow soldiers didn't cry "Allahu Akbar" as they squeezed the trigger.
The delicacy about the religion in question -- condescending, politically correct and deadly -- is nothing new. A week after the first (1993) World Trade Center attack, the same New York Times ran the following front-page headline about the arrest of one Mohammed Salameh: "Jersey City Man Is Charged in Bombing of Trade Center."
Ah yes, those Jersey men -- so resentful of New York, so prone to violence.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:49 AM   #2
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Was anything done about this potential danger?
If we began arresting every religious wacko who presented a "potential" danger, we'd include a lot of Christians too.

Ever notice the crosses at the KKK rallies? But then, that's different, eh?

I don't sympathize with this particular wacko, but I don't expect our government to start arresting people for "potential danger" either. One of our most important freedoms is freedom of speech. You are allowed to say crazy things in this country as long as you harm no one. Prior to harming others, that is about all he had done as I understand it. I read stuff like your article and I scratch my head and wonder what anyone could have done.

We already lost a lot of freedoms in the name of "fighting terrorism." Discussions of this sort have occurred in the past. We even had a member who was fully in favor of setting up checkpoints on American street corners where one might stopped to "show his papers."

We've had others on this board who found nothing wrong with the internment of Americans during WWII...Americans of ***anese descent.



Be careful what you wish for. In the process of trying to eradicate your enemies it is easy to become that which you would eradicate.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:59 AM   #3
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I don't see Christians slamming planes into buildings, or shooting 51 people in a single incident. I also don't know of any Christian sect that promotes killing unbelievers. Yes, there are whackos in every religion, but let's be realistic, fanatical muslims are the number one threat we face. After all, 72 virgins is a strong incentive to become a modern day kamakazi.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:29 PM   #4
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By avoiding mention of religion based motivations for Hasan's actions, public discussions on this tragedy will always be off the mark.

Not every muslim desires to commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam. Not every Christian wants to burn a cross or blow up clinic that does abortions. Stating this fact doesn't make the actions of those who commit violence any less dangerous.

The basis of the issue is tolerance. How tolerant are you willing to be of intolerance? At a certain point, the larger society will have to decide that there are boundaries to behaviour, beyond which it will not accept no matter the cause or justification. Otherwise, the tolerant will acquiesce themselves into submission. In Islam, these people are called "Dhimmi", and only have rights as second class citizens under Sharia law.

Instead of pointing fingers and raising individual cases of wrongdoing by a Muslim or Christian or whatever, look at history and current events in the world. Look at the record of how different communities dealt with differences or failed to do so. (can you who blindly preach the mantra of Diversity hear me?). Islam has a long track record of first playing the victim, and then becoming the oppressors.

A review of history will be and should be a wake-up for Christian bashers and muslim apologists. This is essentially a repeat of the shootings at the Littlerock recruiting center. Let's hope there aren't any more.
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Excellent point, just because most muslims aren't fanatical doesn't bring those killed at Fort Hood back to life. While some catholics have attacked doctors practicing abortion, the correct knee jerk reaction of the media is to blame their religious fanaticism. In the case of muslim fanaticism, the knee jerk reaction is to cover it up and pretend there was some other cause for their actions, a cause which draws sympathy, even victimizes the perpetrator. Consequently, there is no parallel between catholic fanatics and muslim fanatics, either on scale of attack or media coverage.
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Watch out for those Methodist suicide bombers.
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I have to add. We can't hold any one race or religion responsible for this kind of crap, However we can't be afraid to call it as happens. No ***** footing around with PC efforts while the house is on fire.
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If we began arresting every religious wacko who presented a "potential" danger, we'd include a lot of Christians too.
Really? Which ones? From what Christian religon?

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Ever notice the crosses at the KKK rallies? But then, that's different, eh?
What KKK rallies? How recent? You going to post up some photo from the 1950's again?

Why is it that so many cannot address the problem, without playing the analogy card? Whatever evil other religions have perpetuated in this country IN RECENT HISTORY, it pails in comparisson to the jihadist movement of Islam, TODAY!
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:19 PM   #9
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Explain to me how our constitution provides for arresting people who provide "potential" problems.

What did this man do to be arrested prior to the shooting? Can you arrest a man for spouting his religious or political beliefs? Does the use of the word "Christian" cause you guys to shove your brains up your arses?

The man was not "stopped" or arrested because he did NOTHING more than spout off prior to his crime. America does not arrest its citizens for speaking their minds, at least not the last time I looked. But then again, with the spreading of anti-Islamic innuendo, I could see it happening.

See the quote that I highlighted in my first post. It is the epitome of why nothing was or SHOULD HAVE been done to this guy prior to his crime. We have wackos on this board who've done the same or worse...and most of you stood slack-jawed, looking stupid, and dead silent at the time so spare me all the bs about ***** footing while the house is on fire. Example: We have a board member who is on record as OPENLY condoning the murder of abortion doctors. So why hasn't he been arrested for his "potentially dangerous" views and why weren't you guys clamoring for that at the time???? After all, you boys don't go for PC stuff, right? You call a spade a spade, no?

Or is it somehow different when you deep-thinkers quietly agree with and condone the wacko's views? Got consistency?


Oh, and Valor try this, hot shot: http://www.kkk.com
Does it mention the word "Christian" on their webpage??? Or maybe you actually believe that theirs is a message of "love not hate."

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http://www.kkk.bz/cross.htm

"We don't burn the cross, we Light the cross. We recognize that Christ is the light of the world."

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