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Old 11-17-2009, 06:26 AM   #1
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Default Let the healthcare rationing begin!

New Mammogram Guidelines Suggested

http://news.aol.com/health/article/t...it-till/769593


And we're told rationing won't happen.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:43 AM   #2
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Good post FM. At a time when federal and state governments are paying for the removal of gang related tattoos from prison inmates the scumbags want to save money on mammograms.

This is a very sore subject with me. My wife has implants and a lump developed a couple of years ago. The lump cannot be biopsied without rupturing the implant. My wife was repeatedly refused an MRI by Tri-Care. Finally, we paid $3,200 out of pocket for her MRI. She is ok. A couple of weeks ago my wife met an active duty Army major who was also refused an MRI of the breast by Tri-Care.

If federal run healthcare is good enough for US military folks and their dependents, it must certainly be good enough for everypone else-NOT!!!

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Old 11-17-2009, 10:44 AM   #3
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I read that this morning. And I had the very same reaction as you Fieldmouse.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:26 PM   #4
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Sounds like the "death panels" at work. One can imagine the calculations. "Hmmm. It costs $X to do mammogram screens on women over the 10 years from 40 to 50 years of age. If we don't start that until these women are 50 years of age we only lose Y women to breast cancer deaths. Surely Y women are not worth the $X!!!" Maybe these are some of the cost accounting wizards from Ford who made the cost accounting decisions about the Ford Pinto about 30 years ago?
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:33 PM   #5
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Don't say death panels. That would mean Sarah Palin was correct. I guess at least Joe Wilson wasn't correct when he called Obama a liar. Those illegals will be legal by the time the healthcare bill goes in effect in 2013. I just don't understand why we have to wait that long for something so great.
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Sec'y of health and Human Services Sebelius just threw cold water on that panels recommendation.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091118/...mmogram_advice

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WASHINGTON – Women should continue getting regular mammograms starting at age 40, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Wednesday, moving to douse confusion caused by a task-force recommendation two days earlier.
Sebelius issued her statement following a government panel's recommendation on Monday, that said most women don't need mammograms in their 40s and should get one every two years starting at 50.
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Welcome to Obama-nomics... He's only stuck his toe in the water, wait until he jumps in!!!

Men will only have to have a prostate exam after age 95.. Except for him he gets one a week from Nancy and Dingy Harry!!
Welcome to America...

But everyone line up for ABORTIONS... The goberment will pay for them..
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i just watched a professor from Harvard medical school being interviewed on CNN. he said (paraphrased): "If I can be politically incorrect for a minute, they call this a panel of experts. I know all the experts and I do not recognize any of the names of people on that panel."

BTW: Republican politicians who have been quick to criticize the Obama administration for the screwed up decision by this panel of "experts" will not tell you that the panel was not appointed by Obama. It was appointed by Bush.
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i just watched a professor from Harvard medical school being interviewed on CNN. he said (paraphrased): "If I can be politically incorrect for a minute, they call this a panel of experts. I know all the experts and I do not recognize any of the names of people on that panel."

BTW: Republican politicians who have been quick to criticize the Obama administration for the screwed up decision by this panel of "experts" will not tell you that the panel was not appointed by Obama. It was appointed by Bush.
When are we going to stop point the finger at BUSH, he's a private citizen how... Good grief Charlie Brown we quit blaming Clinton for making us look like perverts to the world.
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:18 AM   #10
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This is the most preposterous partisan politics I have ever heard. I come from a family where I am the youngest of 3, financial guy, and my one older bro is a family doctor and the oldest is a Chiropractor. Both of them have been telling me for years that the #1 problem affecting HC is the runaway testing. The Chiro jumped on that train by installing his own x-ray and MRI equipment and believe me every patient that came in "needed" to be tested. He was even able to hire a tech for the MRI machine. All of my family started out poor with huge college loans but, he is almost retired now, at 51, living in his 6,000 square foot house on his 90 acre property full of deer, turkeys and bears and works about 15 hours per week.

His property is a playground for an outdoorsman as we all are, but who paid for it. YOU AND I.

I can't imagine any Republican or Conservative worth anything other than partisan blabber not defending the opinon issued on cancer testing. I am certain any Rep plan being brought up will, they are too smart not too, but here they stand making their speaches about how bad it is.

IF YOU DON'T NEED IT AND YOUR DOCTOR SAYS YOU DONT THEN DON'T SPEND THE MONEY.

I just had a good friend twist his knee coaching soccer and his surgeon, who had an MRI machine in his office, had him come back every third day for 3 weeks just to make sure his knee worked out ok. In the end his knee healed and he needed nothing. I bet his bill was $20,000.

HOW COULD A REPUBLICAN or CONSERVATIVE (Like that or word???) even think of defending that kind of activity.

The unnecessary use of prescription drugs and the insane amount of unnecessary testing that goes on is just one of the reasons why this is such a problem.

I just can't imagine that the Rep HC plan would not want to address issues such as this.


I almost fell off my chair last night when I heard some Rep woman Senator(name????) spewing that "look at the rationing that is starting to happen" Unless we control the runaway spending for UNNECESSARY testing nothing is ever going to change.

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