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Old 09-22-2009, 09:40 AM   #1
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Default How will America look if the Liberals get their way? Look at massachusetts

http://www.naturalnews.com/026934_he...uarantine.html



NaturalNews) The United States of America is devolving into medical fascism and Massachusetts is leading the way with the passage of a new bill, the "Pandemic Response Bill" 2028, reportedly just passed by the MA state Senate and now awaiting approval in the House. This bill suspends virtually all Constitutional rights of Massachusetts citizens and forces anyone "suspected" of being infected to submit to interrogations, "decontaminations" and vaccines.

It's also sets fines up to $1,000 per day for anyone who refuses to submit to quarantines, vaccinations, decontamination efforts or to follow any other verbal order by virtually any state-licensed law enforcement or medical personnel. You can read the text yourself here: http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/sen...

Here's some of the language contained in the bill:

(Violation of 4th Amendment: Illegal search and seizure)

During either type of declared emergency, a local public health authority... may exercise authority... to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises; to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be
decontaminated any building or facility; to destroy any material; to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons;


(Violation of 14th Amendment; illegal arrest without a warrant)

...an officer authorized to serve criminal process may arrest without a warrant any person whom the officer has probable cause to believe has violated an order given to effectuate the purposes of this subsection and shall use reasonable diligence to enforce such order. [Gunpoint]

(Government price controls)

The attorney general, in consultation with the office of consumer affairs and business regulation, and upon the declaration by the governor that a supply emergency exists, shall take appropriate action to ensure that no person shall sell a product or service that is at a price that unreasonably exceeds the price charged before the emergency.

"Involuntary Transportation" (also known as kidnapping)

Law enforcement authorities, upon order of the commissioner or his agent or at the request of a local public health authority pursuant to such order, shall assist emergency medical technicians or other appropriate medical personnel in the involuntary transportation of such person to the tuberculosis treatment center.

$1,000 / day in fines

Any person who knowingly violates an order, as to which noncompliance
poses a serious danger to public health as determined by the commissioner or the local public health authority, shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 30 days or a fine of not more than one thousand dollars per day that the violation continues, or both.


Forced vaccinations

Furthermore, when the commissioner or a local public health authority within its jurisdiction determines that either or both of the following measures are necessary to prevent a serious danger to the public health the commissioner or local public health authority may exercise the following authority: (1) to vaccinate or provide precautionary prophylaxis to individuals as protection against communicable disease
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Violating constitutional rights to ensure the safety of the public is ok with me. Id rather not die of the plague or some other nasty disease.
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:08 AM   #3
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Violating constitutional rights to ensure the safety of the public is ok with me.
There are more than a few who believe that confiscating firearms would help ensure the safety of the public.
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I understand what you are saying, but think of what it will take to obtain information on who is sick to start with. What will a bill like this lead too? How will the government find out who is sick, and who is not? They will have to be rather intursive to obtain the information to start with. Just think of all the crap Bush got for wire taps? It proved to save lives, but many Liberals cried foul. I think this is even more intrusive than listening to over seas phone calls.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:08 PM   #5
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There are more than a few who believe that confiscating firearms would help ensure the safety of the public.

And if guns were shooting people by themselves, multiplying in order to kill more people...yeah Id be in favor of a ban.

Thats a lame comparrison. Living organism vs a piece of metal.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:15 PM   #6
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I understand what you are saying, but think of what it will take to obtain information on who is sick to start with. What will a bill like this lead too? How will the government find out who is sick, and who is not? They will have to be rather intursive to obtain the information to start with. Just think of all the crap Bush got for wire taps? It proved to save lives, but many Liberals cried foul. I think this is even more intrusive than listening to over seas phone calls.
Yep, I get what you are saying as well. I had no problem with the wire taps either, these two items go hand in hand for me.

Youve got to stop an epidemic/pandemic somehow A few violated privacies or tens/hundreds/thousands dead.

Its one of those no win situations for the public. Someone will be pissed at the end, thats just how it goes.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:52 PM   #7
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Thats a lame comparrison. Living organism vs a piece of metal.
Lame? Maybe. I'd classify it as a vague comparison, though. Your initial comment about violating constitutional rights for the sake of public safety was pretty vague, too. I'm just saying there are a number of people who make very similar or even identical statements when they're arguing for gun control.

Also, I think applying it vaguely across the board to all constitutional rights serves as a good reminder that constitutional rights are constitutional rights for a reason . . . public safety be damned. (Does that make me callous?)
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And if guns were shooting people by themselves, multiplying in order to kill more people...yeah Id be in favor of a ban.

Thats a lame comparrison. Living organism vs a piece of metal.
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You give up yours,I'll keep mine thank you.
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:53 PM   #10
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The problem with the government having more power to do anything is that if you give them one inch, they will take another yard. That is exactly why Ben Franklin said, " Those who trade a little freedom for a little saftey, will get neither". It has always been true and always will be. Live free or die, If that is the only two choices, then I am old enough.
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