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Old 09-17-2009, 04:04 AM   #1
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Obama to Abandon European Missile Defense, Media Reports Say
Thursday, September 17, 2009
By Patrick Goodenough, International Editor



The Obama administration reportedly plans to abandon a Bush-era plan to build a missile defense shield in Europe. (Photo courtesy Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance)
(CNSNews.com) – The Obama administration is on the verge of abandoning proposals to build a missile defense shield in Europe which caused a major rift between the U.S. and Russia, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

The move will resonate in Poland and the Czech Republic, where governments weathered domestic unease and Russian fury by signing agreements with the Bush administration in 2008 to host elements of the system – ten missile interceptors and a radar tracking station respectively.

Supporters of the plans in the two former Warsaw Pact states saw it as a way to strengthen ties with Washington while countering Moscow’s regional influence, viewed as increasingly threatening after last summer’s Russian invasion of Georgia.

The Associated Press cited administration officials as saying U.S. officials were expected to give briefings to politicians in the two NATO member states on Thursday. It also said Defense Secretary Robert Gates had scheduled a press conference Thursday, reportedly on the missile defense issue.

The ballistic missile defense (BMD) umbrella was aimed at protecting the U.S. and its allies against potential aggression from Iran, which is pursuing both a long-range missile capability and pushing ahead with a nuclear program that the West suspects is a cover to develop nuclear weapons. But the Kremlin characterized the BMD plan as a threat to Russian security and threatened retaliatory steps.

The Obama administration, which pledged to “reset” its relationship with Moscow, launched a review of the proposals earlier this year, focusing on its cost and operational effectiveness. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton hinted at the possibility that it may be shelved, depending on Iran’s future behavior.

President Obama confirmed in March that a letter he had written to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev explained that “obviously, to the extent that we are lessening Iran’s commitment to nuclear weapons, that reduces the pressure for, or the need for, a missile defense system.”

The Wall Street Journal report cited current and former U.S. officials as saying the decision to shelve the BMD plan would be based “on a determination that Iran’s long-range missile program has not progressed as rapidly as previously estimated, reducing the threat to the continental U.S. and major European capitals.”

Iran – with North Korean assistance, according to the CIA – has for years been developing and testing liquid-fueled Shahab missile variants with ranges of 1,000 miles and more.

Last February it became just the 10th country with the proven capability to put a satellite into space, using a two-stage, liquid-fueled rocket, the Safir-2, to do so. Experts said the accomplishment was further evidence of Iran’s increasingly sophisticated ballistic missile capability.

In May, Tehran test-fired a solid-fueled, two-stage Sejil-2 missile with a range of around 1,200 miles, making it capable of reaching parts of south-eastern and eastern Europe.

Political analyst and Heritage Foundation scholar Nile Gardiner wrote on the Daily Telegraph Web site last month that if the Obama administration dropped the missile defense plans, “it would represent an appalling surrender to Russian demands, and the shameful of appeasement of an increasingly aggressive regime that is openly flexing its muscle in an effort to intimidate ex-members of the Warsaw Pact.”

“Such a move would significantly weaken America’s ability to combat the growing threat posed by Iran’s ballistic missile program, and would hand a major propaganda victory to the Russians,” he said.
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:13 AM   #2
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Good.

This turkey was nothing moret than another "star wars" - style kick back to the military-industrial-complex. I dinosaur of leftover waste from the Bush error.

Heritage foundation? Propaganda mill.
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:44 AM   #3
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Everyone loves everyone now Rev. There is no threat from Iran with Nukes. Their very peace loving and only misunderstood. FYI, that goes for NK as well since we've abondoned defending ourselves from their missle launch.
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Old 09-17-2009, 04:50 AM   #4
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Everyone loves everyone now Rev. There is no threat from Iran with Nukes. Their very peace loving and only misunderstood. FYI, that goes for NK as well since we've abondoned defending ourselves from their missle launch.
That's what I was thinking, at the time that Iran is strutting around showing their feathers, it's a good time to disarm and lay our weapons down.

Those against missile defense have never been rained by rockets. It's like my daddy told me long ago, you may never need a hand gun, but when you do, nothing can take it's place.
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Yes,Tex lets lay down our arms drop the soap and bend waaaaay over,right!How old are you,do you even remember the Soviet Union?I don't think I've seen this since the Carter years,oh and who suddenly sees racism every where,good ol' Jimmy.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:37 AM   #6
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I am not always right about my political opinions. I may not be right in the political opinion I'm about to voice, but so be it.

Personally, I think our nation has gone excessively to the polar opposite of isolationism, the tendency that dominated our nation's foreign policy for its first 110 years maybe first 125 years. I think we have our fingers in too many pies and that this is counter productive to securing our own security -- the presumed ends projected by our foreign policy. I personally recommend dialing our external committments back significantly and letting locals handle their own messes and problems. Let South Korea deal with North Korea: they are sufficiently robust to handle the task, and maybe this would mean they couldn't kick our azz as much in automobile production and mobile phone production and high end television production. Ditto with ***an. Ditto with Germany -- you do remember we still have major presence in Germany, remaining from WW-II. Ditto with the Phillipines. I would be comfortable with dialing back this interventionist -- some might say "imperialist", but I won't go there -- maybe 25% from where we are today maybe 33% from where we are today, at least in the near term. Let that settle down, let that incremental change shake out and see if this works. Then, if that goes well, keep rolling back those foreign committments.

With reference to the present subject, I think the deployment of a US financed missile shield in eastern Europe is just an additional increment of this interventionist policy. It is damn expensive. I say, let the bloody Poles, Hungarians, Germans handle their own defense -- like we handle our own defense. Again, maybe if those nations had to divert as much of their national resources to their national defense as we do they might not compete so effectively with us in the economic stage.

This does not mean I do not support strong weapons system development and advancement. It is essential to national security to always maintain state-of-the-art weaponry and to lead the pack, if possible. It was not fun for our soliders to suffer the losses due to inferior rifle technology in Cuba during the Spanish American war (Spanish had modern Mausers, US had much inferior riflery).

Another point. In my view spending national treasure in military activities/materiel abroad has to have the objective of securing our national security. I do not buy -- I mean, as a tax payer, I do not want to shell out $$$, literally buying -- making the world safe for American business. I don't care if foreign nations may be hostile to American business interests. Tought $h1t. EDS, shell out your money for security in that foreign country. If you dismiss this issue of making foreign nations safe for American business interests, the subject of security within out borders changes. We have seen ourselves how difficult it is to attack and subdue even primitive peoples in moderately large nations. I'm down with our involvements in the middle east, addressing islamic fundamentalist terrorism. But I see South Korea, Phillipenes, ***an, Germany, and, to the current point, the missile shield, as different issues and not really directed to our security within our borders. Other opinions may differ, and that's OK. We still have a free country and differences of opinion are allowed. I acknowledge that other intelligent, informed people can have a different view from me on this matter.

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Old 09-17-2009, 06:54 AM   #7
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“Such a move would significantly weaken America’s ability to combat the growing threat posed by Iran’s ballistic missile program, and would hand a major propaganda victory to the Russians,” he said.
Up to this point, the Russians have been the strongest supporters of Iran's nuke program. Its possible that the Obama Administration just sold out our allies, or its possible its another geo-political move. By sacrificing the missle defense systems in Eastern Europe, maybe the Russians support for Nuke weapons in Iran just took a back seat. I hope the latter is the case. If not, one step closer to Armageddon.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:36 AM   #9
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You got to give Putin props. He kicked our presidents behind. He made bama his bitcHHHH. Our president is too busy watching TV music awards talking about a rapper taking the microphone. While freakin putin has his eye on the prize. Lord, I pray we survive this failure of a leader we have.
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You got to give Putin props. He kicked our presidents behind. He made bama his bitcHHHH. Our president is too busy watching TV music awards talking about a rapper taking the microphone. While freakin putin has his eye on the prize. Lord, I pray we survive this failure of a leader we have.
I don't think your racist statements should be allowed here. Where are the moderators?
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