Today, unfortunately a kid got hurt first play of the football game. Not my son's game but the one before. Unlike the Canadian system, a medivac chopper was available on standby and they life flighted the kid out of there. I hope he was OK. For the actress who was vacationing/skiing in Canada it wasn't available.
FYI, no one asked if he was covered by health insurance.
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FM, we do have medivac choppers, mind you they do not sit field side at football games. Each province has it's own medivac system and choppers based out of areas where the demand is required. All hospitals have LZ's and staff are trained to duck the chopper blades...Patients are not required to use the out houses unless they are bad....lol...And the actress you mentioned actually refused EMS attention the first time they saw her.
Do not compare systems, but take the best of all that is out there and shape a system that would be the envy of the world even more than it is now.
FM, we do have medivac choppers, mind you they do not sit field side at football games. Each province has it's own medivac system and choppers based out of areas where the demand is required. All hospitals have LZ's and staff are trained to duck the chopper blades...Patients are not required to use the out houses unless they are bad....lol...And the actress you mentioned actually refused EMS attention the first time they saw her.
Amazing. This is not the first time I've noted that you have had to correct ridiculous misinformation posted on this subject.
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...take the best of all that is out there and shape a system that would be the envy of the world even more than it is now.
That is what I suggested...that we need to look at all methods, including other systems and ours and try to capitalize on what is working and eliminate what is not so as to improve our system and try to control costs. That remains a fact despite the misinformation and fabrications posted by those who, not surprisingly, turn out to be wrong on most of what they post.
One would think that by now it is readily apparent that next to no one is calling for America to leave things as they are now. Both sides of the aisle and even the infamous and crotchety Bill O'Reilly agree that something must be done and that the system is broken in a number of ways with rising costs being the result and primary symptom.
Thanks, Canuck, for once again clarifying the obvious misinformation provided by all those people who've usually never spent a day under the plan in place in your nation, but who, none the less, think they are "experts" on what you people have and do not have.
It is only by considering the truth about other systems that we might eventually improve on what good things we do have within our system, eliminate what is broken, and hopefully bring the ever-rising costs to a more reasonable and sustainable rate.
FM, we do have medivac choppers, mind you they do not sit field side at football games. Each province has it's own medivac system and choppers based out of areas where the demand is required.
sad. you are clearly in denial about the state of healthcare in the "true north strong and free".
face facts:
we use helicpters. you use dog sleds.
we use whole blood. you use double doubles.
we use scalpels. you use hockey sticks.
we use glucose drips. you main-line poutine.
we have medivac teams hovering by youth football games. you guys don't even have a fair catch rule.
when will you realize your sydtem sucks, notwithstanding the fact that you seem to like yours as much as we like ours, yours is cheaper, and you people tend to live longer than we do (the lack of the fair cath rule notwithstanding).
FM, we do have medivac choppers, mind you they do not sit field side at football games. Each province has it's own medivac system and choppers based out of areas where the demand is required. All hospitals have LZ's and staff are trained to duck the chopper blades...Patients are not required to use the out houses unless they are bad....lol...And the actress you mentioned actually refused EMS attention the first time they saw her.
Do not compare systems, but take the best of all that is out there and shape a system that would be the envy of the world even more than it is now.
Never made the claim you don't have medivac choppers. however, just like we have many more MRI machines per capita, I'm willing to bet we have many more mdivac choppers per capita as well. Want to take that bet?
FYI, that actress may have refused initial treatment there on the slopes but when it was determined she needed one, was one available?
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Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
That is what I suggested...that we need to look at all methods, including other systems and ours and try to capitalize on what is working and eliminate what is not so as to improve our system and try to control costs.
there is nothing wrong with our system, VC. Nothing. why do you insist on propagating lies? is it because you hate america?
you people tend to live longer than we do (the lack of the fair cath rule notwithstanding).
Mormons live 10 years longer, is their healthcare cheaper and/or better?
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
a more telling comparison would be to compare life expectancy of U.S. Mormons to Canadian Mormons. (hint...the latter live longer).
Whoa, how is that a better comparison? Your implying the claim it's healthcare that makes you live longer which is total BS. Healthcare isn't the reason as just shown with Mormons who live under the exact same healthcare as everyone else in the US. Yet they live longer. So which is it? life style or healthcare insurance (since everyone in the US has healthcare).
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
now now FM, per capita reasoning wouldn't fit I'd say...populations are not the same, city centers not the same...remote northern areas have more medivac choppers due to distances and also the forest fire choppers are also called in to service just in case some met up with one of the biggest nastiest black bears you'd ever want to hunt and actually had cell phone service to call 911 or managed to slow blood loss to the point where there were able to build a fire and sent a bloody smoke signal to one of nearby 1st nation reserves, had it translated in time to send someone on horseback to the nearest payphone, borrow a quarter to dial 911...lol
city medivacs are plentiful, most EMS ambulances are faster and will bring a patient to a park open area landing zone for medivac pick up when necessary. most pilots speak english, some with accents, some are great looking chicks...
MRI's are not as plentiful as in the usa because we just don't need that many, we canucks have thick skulls because of our cold winters and frankly, we just don't run to the hospital for every apple that hits the noggin' eh...large metropolitans do have MRI's but they are still needing to be plugged in during winter months so the oil don't freeze, some places leave em running...for those wanting fast MRI's cus of insurance claim issues they cross the border for a quick visit to those great drive thru MRI clinics...but not unless we can use the credit card eh !
and....and I'll have you know, the french invented poutine, created roadside french fry trucks and placed them beside most gas stations in a convoluted effort to create medical issues and shorten the life span of english canadians...lol
MRI coupons are usually given as prizes inside of king sized potato chip bags during two for one sales, so we can save a bundle and not go hungry while we wait for our MRI turn....lol
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US healthcare vs the Canadian model
