Obama can shut down your website. If you dont like them, shut them down.

[burniegoeasily]

Senate Bill Would Give President Emergency Control of Internet

Details of a revamped version of the Cybersecurity Act of 2009 show the Senate bill could give the president a "kill switch" on the Internet and allow him to shut out private networks from online access.



Friday, August 28, 2009
A Senate bill would offer President Obama emergency control of the Internet and may give him a "kill switch" to shut down online traffic by seizing private networks -- a move cybersecurity experts worry will choke off industry and civil liberties.

Details of a revamped version of the Cybersecurity Act of 2009 emerged late Thursday, months after an initial version authored by Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V., was blasted in Silicon Valley as dangerous government intrusion.
"In the original bill they empowered the president to essentially turn off the Internet in the case of a 'cyber-emergency,' which they didn't define," said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which represents the telecommunications industry.
"We think it's a very bad idea ... to put in legislation," he told FOXNews.com.
Clinton said the new version of the bill that surfaced this week is improved from its first draft, but troubling language that was removed was replaced by vague language that could still offer the same powers to the president in case of an emergency.
"The current language is so unclear that we can't be confident that the changes have actually been made," he said.
The new legislation allows the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and make a plan to respond to the danger, according to an excerpt published online a broad license that rights experts worry would give the president "amorphous powers" over private users.
"As soon as you're saying that the federal government is going to be exercising this kind of power over private networks, it's going to be a really big issue," Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, told CNET News.
A Senate source familiar with the bill likened the new power to take control of portions of the Internet to what President Bush did when he grounded all aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001, CNET News reported.
Spokesmen for Senator Rockefeller and the Commerce Committee did not return calls seeking comment before this article was published.
But Rockefeller, who introduced the bill in April with bipartisan support, said the legislation was critical to protecting everything from water and electricity to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records.
"I know the threats we face," Rockefeller said in a prepared statement when the legislation was introduced. "Our enemies are real. They are sophisticated, they are determined and they will not rest."
The bill would also let the government create a detailed set of standards for licensing "cybersecurity professionals" who would oversee a single standard for security measures.
But many in the technology sector believe it's a job the government is ill-equipped to handle, said Franck Journoud, a policy analyst with the Business Software Alliance.
"Simply put, who has the expertise?" he told FOXNews.com in April. "It's the industry, not the government. We have a responsibility to increase and improve security. That responsibility cannot be captured in a government standard."
Clinton, of the Internet Security Alliance, praised President Obama's May science policy review, which he said would take cybersecurity in the right direction by promoting incentives to get the private industry to improve its own security measures.
But he faulted the Senate bill, which he said would centralize regulations for an industry that is too varied to fall under the control of a single set of rules without endangering the economy and security.
"We think a lot of things need to be done to enhance cybersecurity," he told FOXNews.com, but this bill is "not something that we could support."

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If you cant beat them, censor them or shut them down.And how about the cash for clunker site that would allow the Government to own your computer if you visited it? Yep Ifferd, your Daddy is a real piece of work.

[burniegoeasily]

April with bipartisan support,

I think the ares clowns that voted with the democramps need to be put on the soup line with the demos.

[fodderblade]

The fear mongering after 9-11 is paying off with ever increasing power grab by the exec. branch Bush/Chenney set the stage with that "Unitary Exec. Theory" BS and Obama and whoever comes later will build on that.

I've been calling that one since the DHS (fascism) "fear motivated" legislation that only Russ Feingold has the Balls to oppose.

[burniegoeasily]

If you are saying it is wrong to justify wrong doings with past wrong doings, I will agree 100%. I will not argue that Bush was responsible for getting a lot of this mess started. But what amazes me is how most, not all, Demos justify present evils with past evils. "Bush did (insert whatever you want) so shut up and deal with it".

[Wub]

Originally Posted by fodderblade

The fear mongering after 9-11 is paying off with ever increasing power grab by the exec. branch Bush/Chenney set the stage with that "Unitary Exec. Theory" BS and Obama and whoever comes later will build on that.

I've been calling that one since the DHS (fascism) "fear motivated" legislation that only Russ Feingold has the Balls to oppose.

Ok, the difference is that liberals, with their savior, will build on it and drastically. They have both the lack of morals and desire of power to do so. Through their public uneducation system, the unions, and the acorns of the world, they have also built a large enough flock to fight to give them that power. Conservatives have been too preoccupied (generally paying for everything all you liberals do) and passive for too long. It's time for us to undo what has been done.

You know thats one thing that separates up from the UK. They can shut down thier press and any information service at will.

Fodder, can you explain your point? Your not going to find too many friends here of the patriot act. So, are you saying you agree with this crap by obama?

I mean bush hasn't been president for quite some time now. Your going to have to move on to today.

[burniegoeasily]

Originally Posted by Wub

Ok, the difference is that liberals, with their savior, will build on it and drastically. They have both the lack of morals and desire of power to do so. Through their public uneducation system, the unions, and the acorns of the world, they have also built a large enough flock to fight to give them that power. Conservatives have been too preoccupied (generally paying for everything all you liberals do) and passive for too long. It's time for us to undo what has been done.

And we can only laugh at the hypocricy in the Dems.. They cried and whinned, gritched and moaned about such power grabs, forcing bills through congress, and told us how it was so wrong and Bush should be impeached for such things. Yet they pull the very same tricks and smile and say we are wrong to complain. I can see the Demo party getting their butts handed to them in 2010 and 2012. And if they push a "public option" aka social plan, through with with no Republican, and with out support of their constituents (remember this little line,"I will vote for this bill, whether my constituents want it or not. ") they will be putting the nails in the demo. parties coffin.

[Wub]

Originally Posted by burniegoeasily

And we can only laugh at the hypocricy in the Dems.. They cried and whinned, gritched and moaned about such power grabs, forcing bills through congress, and told us how it was so wrong and Bush should be impeached for such things. Yet they pull the very same tricks and smile and say we are wrong to complain. I can see the Demo party getting their butts handed to them in 2010 and 2012. And if they push a "public option" aka social plan, through with with no Republican, and with out support of their constituents (remember this little line,"I will vote for this bill, whether my constituents want it or not. ") they will be putting the nails in the demo. parties coffin.

I really hope so. Each year they're pumping out more morons from their schools. If the ability to read was somehow necessary to participate in the voting process, I think you would be right; it would be a landslide. I fear they'll just do what they did in 08'. Although, I believe there were a lot of conservatives who were somehow, fooled into voting for Obama. I guess they forgot that liberals lie... Maybe if they come back, we'll have a chance to even things out a bit.

[Fieldmouse]

fodder is forgeting scanning all emails began under Clinton.

[Fieldmouse]

Wow, they are also requiring a full cable mapping of private computer networks. Sorry, no thank you. It's very easy to do but you have to be behind the firewall to do it. Sorry, search warrant required.

This is a big joke:

The bill would also let the government create a detailed set of standards for licensing "cybersecurity professionals" who would oversee a single standard for security measures.

OMG, the government be modern? We're talking about the same government that runs on 10 year old hardware and programs because it takes way too long to aprove anything. Is there any doubt as to how far behind our corporation would find themselves in the business world? How uncompetetive our corporations would be? This would send a mass exodus out of this country.