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Old 08-25-2009, 09:53 AM   #1
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Default Barry losing war in Afghanistan? Bodies piling up!

Deadliest year for US servicemen since it began. Things are getting worse under him, and I am concerned whether we can win this war under his command.

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Old 08-25-2009, 09:59 AM   #2
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I never thought we would win under anyone's command. The Soviet Union got their butts kicked over there, it is our turn now. All our government should have done is found Bin Laden and his cronies and gotten the h-e-ll out of there. So far he is still on the lamb as far as we know, and that surely isn't all Obama's fault either. Who gives a hoot about a stable government there. Like it will last very long?
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With Barry at the helm we can all sleep sound at night. (with one eye open)
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:21 AM   #4
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I never thought we would win under anyone's command. The Soviet Union got their butts kicked over there, it is our turn now. All our government should have done is found Bin Laden and his cronies and gotten the h-e-ll out of there. So far he is still on the lamb as far as we know, and that surely isn't all Obama's fault either. Who gives a hoot about a stable government there. Like it will last very long?

The only reason the Soviets got their butts kicked was because of Charlie Wilson.
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You can't kiss ass and win wars at the same time, maybe if he went over there personally and apologized for us being there...
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:36 AM   #6
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The only reason the Soviets got their butts kicked was because of Charlie Wilson.

Who is behind our butts getting kicked? Howdy Doody?? The only thing I can blame Obama for is that he should pull us out of there completely. Bush had 6 years over there, how much success did he have? We would have been in the same situation right now no matter who was president. Time to get out. They don't give one hoot about us, why should we worry about them?
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Man, I don't know. This is what many folks were concerned about before the election. McCain might not be the staunch conservative many of us wanted, but no doubt in my mind he would have continued a good fight in Afganistan with the goal of victory. With Holder stating this CIA abuse investigation, it could cause serious reprocussions for the U.S. Intelligence community across the globe, and specifically, Afganistan. Scary indeed, especially for our brothers, and sisters, on the front lines of combat.
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Who is behind our butts getting kicked? Howdy Doody?? The only thing I can blame Obama for is that he should pull us out of there completely. Bush had 6 years over there, how much success did he have? We would have been in the same situation right now no matter who was president. Time to get out. They don't give one hoot about us, why should we worry about them?

I guess you're right. We should run from everything difficult!
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I never thought we would win under anyone's command. The Soviet Union got their butts kicked over there, it is our turn now. All our government should have done is found Bin Laden and his cronies and gotten the h-e-ll out of there. So far he is still on the lamb as far as we know, and that surely isn't all Obama's fault either. Who gives a hoot about a stable government there. Like it will last very long?
1. Soviet failed in Afghanistan because at that time the resistence was supported by the US. They were even supplied by high tech. weapons such like anti missiles Sting.

Now there is no power to back the resistence. Without financial and weapon supply, the resistence can't last long.

2. The Al Qaida is a puppet tool of US intelligence, so is Taliban. They were comanded by Pentagon and CIA. The resistence is now used as a whip to squeeze money from people.

3. Afghanistan is now used as a replacement of Iraq. Pentagon can keep on asking for more money and troops in Mid-east. They left Iraq because Iraq is generally under control so they need it to become a steady oil supply source. They need a riot source to keep the army in Mid-east because there is another oil country to conquer - that is Iran.

4. That's how media, or the internet propaganda troops try to mis-lead your mind.
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:18 AM   #10
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I don't know what the facts are. Generally, my understanding is that we are incrementally redirecting our attention and our resources from Iraq to Afghanistan. As general strategy, this seems appropriate to me. Iraq seems to have been pacified, and maybe it is time for the Iraqis to step up to the plate and bat for themselves. There will never be a perfect time for this transition, and the transition will never be perfect or without hiccups. That's just the way its gonna be.

It stands to reason that some of the thugs in Afghanistan aren't going to like the return of the American military spotlight on their activities and they are going to fight back. That probably means some more casualties. I guess that just comes with the territory. I certainly have plenty of things I do not see eye-to-eye the Obama administration on domestic policy (let me count the ways -- (1) stimulus package, (2) energy policy, (3) healthcare policy). I don't see that I have any difference of opinion with him on handling Afghanistan at this point.

Can anyone else site specific military strategic and/or tactical decisions that the Obama administration has implemented in Afghanistan that they disagree with? Let's not just say xxx folks got killed this week, bad Obama, BAAAADDDDDDD Obama!!!! What are the bogus, brain dead, ill-advised military decisions made by Obama and/or his military commanders that you are taking issue with? Granted this is what the Democrats and liberal media did while Bush was president, but that doesn't make it right and/or logical.

Now, if I have a beef with foreign policy it is in an area that I have perceived both Democrats and Republicans and seemingly the majority of American citizens disagree with me, but that doesn't stop me from pointing out my thought. Generally, I would like to see us be much less interventionist and much more isolationist in our foreign commitments. Because I am a conservative, I believe in moving slow. I want to avoid unintended consequences. One way to do this or to reduce the impact of such unintended consequences is to move slowly. Let's move out of South Korea first, save some much needed pocket change. Kim Jung Il???? A paper tiger. He's got nuthin'. He is rattling his sabre to get attention and increase his profile on the world stage. His government is so pathetic that every early spring his propaganda organs vaunt the virtues of eating bark and twigs. Can you read "famine" between the lines there? I can. Don't expect a massive invasion of South Korea anytime soon. Also, maybe our companies could compete more effectively against Samsung, Kia, Hyundai, and other South Korean companies if their government had to carry their defense burden by themselves. After all, the population is not particularly happy about the US military presence there. Let them take this duty on by themselves. After this, let's look to Philipenes and ***an and Germany.
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