Here's one I can support!

[sachiko]

Bill to allow concealed carry on college campuses.

http://www.wilx.com/home/headlines/53888577.html

I don't think it will pass though. And, naturally, all the college presidents are against it. They know that, if it's illegal, noone will ever bring a gun on campus.


We're pro-sheep of course, but sheep should not be in positions of authority

[Champlain Islander]

I am against legalization for CC on campus. Spend time in the average college dorm and having guns play into the mix with booze doesn't make sense. Lots of those kids go nuts getting away from home for the first time. Let them leave their guns home.

[sachiko]

Originally Posted by Champlain Islander

I am against legalization for CC on campus. Spend time in the average college dorm and having guns play into the mix with booze doesn't make sense. Lots of those kids go nuts getting away from home for the first time. Let them leave their guns home.

That's a reasonable argument. Obviously, at least around here, you don't have to be 21 to get adult beverages.

But you do have to be 21 to get a CPL and you can't get someone else to get it for you. And most college students are not 21. While your argument makes sense, I think the reaction of these college presidents is just knee-jerk, anti-gun liberalism.

My husband's law school banned weapons, even though all the students are at least 21, there are no dorms, you can carry in the city streets right up to a law school building. So it's just an anti-gun reflex by those with the authority to turn their reflexes into rules.

They don't search you and there are no metal detectors on my campus. Anyone, nutcase or not, could walk around with a concealed pistol if they were willing to break the rules/law.

So the only people you can be sure are not armed are the folks who, either out of fear of being caught, or respect for the law, are following the rules. I asked my husband once, why he didn't carry, and he told me that, if he got caught, he would be expelled and lose everything he had worked for. Obviously he didn't respect the rule, but was conforming out of fear of the consequences of getting caught.

So when you ban concealed carry, you are really only affecting the most responsible subset of the population, those who respect the law or those who reasonably fear the consequences of getting caught.


May The Sheep Be With You

[The Rev]

Originally Posted by Champlain Islander

I am against legalization for CC on campus. Spend time in the average college dorm and having guns play into the mix with booze doesn't make sense. Lots of those kids go nuts getting away from home for the first time. Let them leave their guns home.

Kind of reminds me of Viet Nam.. 18 and 19 year olds with guns, booze, pot, and serious drugs.

[C. Davis]

Every state I know of has a minimum age of 21 requirement for a CHL. That would exclude just about every first time away from home college kid. Heck, when I was in college, I had barely enough money for bologna, cheese, bread, and macaroni. I paid $140 for my CHL fee here in Texas, plus another $100 for the class, finger prints, notary, pictures, and ammo. That kind of money when I was a college kid might as well been a million bucks.

I think any grad student, teacher, or college student that meets the age requirement, and all other requirements should be allowed to carry if they are licensed. I'm sure some lawful concealed carry holders would have come real handy at Virginia Tech. I don't think a nut should have free reign over defenseless people, and know it before they start a murderous rampage. In Texas, we can carry in Church with a CHL and where no 30.06 sign is posted. I carry, and I suspect at least 4 or 5 more of our members do to. I bet we all would be surprised who is carrying.

I think passing laws telling murderous nuts where law abiding people cannot carry is stupid.

C. Davis