Ahh Poor Babies.

The Rev · 08-19-2009, 04:09 AM

Victims, Legal Experts Make Case for Life without Parole for Some Juvenile Offenders
Wednesday, August 19, 2009
By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer

Daniel Horowitz, a defense attorney whose wife was brutally murdered by a 16-year-old neighbor in 2005, spoke at an event at The Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C., about the need for some juvenile offenders to be sentenced to life without parole. (CNSNews.com/Penny Starr)
(CNSNews.com) - In the fall, the U.S. Supreme Court will consider whether sentencing teenagers to life iin prison without the possibility of parole constitutes “cruel and unusual” punishment. The court specifically will consider the cases of two Florida teens – a 13-year-old convicted of raping a 72-year-old woman and a 16-year-old who violated probation after an attempted robbery conviction by taking part in a series of armed robberies.

But legal experts and those whose loved ones have been killed by juvenile offenders are speaking out in advance of the high court hearing on Sullivan v. Florida and Graham v. Florida. They say some offenders who are younger than 18. should be incarcerated indefinitely.

falcon · 08-19-2009, 05:09 AM

This guy Horowitz was your typical liberal defense lawyer until his wife was murdered by some little cretin. This kind of unfortunate tragedy changes the views of quite a few liberals.

There will be all kinds of excuses for the behavior of under-age murderers, kidnappers and rapists put before SCOTUS.

The Rev · 08-19-2009, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by falcon

This guy Horowitz was your typical liberal defense lawyer until his wife was murdered by some little cretin. This kind of unfortunate tragedy changes the views of quite a few liberals.

There will be all kinds of excuses for the behavior of under-age murderers, kidnappers and rapists put before SCOTUS.

That is exactly what I told my wife this morning. It will be interesting to see what develops.

kevin1 · 08-19-2009, 07:33 AM

If you commit adult crimes you should be prepared to do adult time, any crime that would normally result in life without parole for an adult should also apply to juveniles. Send them to juvie until they're 18, then off to the adult prison.

burniegoeasily · 08-19-2009, 08:03 AM

Are you all that cold hearted? These rehabed babies need to have a second chance to do more crime. Its the Liberal way. Screw the victum, they are dead, so just forget about them. It should be about making sure the criminal is treated well.

salukipv1 · 08-19-2009, 08:54 AM

Let's sentence 13yo? 16yo to life without parole?

maybe some kids "get it" sooner than others, but I think most have their head up the azz until at least 23 or 25...

You can't tell me a 13yo grasps the seriousness of their actions.

salukipv1 · 08-19-2009, 08:58 AM

If a 13yo is old enough to committ and "adult crime" , they're certainly old enough to drink right? or smoke? or vote? be in the army? let's just lower the legal age of an adult from 18, to 13 right?

The Rev · 08-19-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by salukipv1

If a 13yo is old enough to committ and "adult crime" , they're certainly old enough to drink right? or smoke? or vote? be in the army? let's just lower the legal age of an adult from 18, to 13 right?

Your joking right?

Cause I can't believe a normal adult could use this reasoning.

burniegoeasily · 08-19-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by salukipv1

Let's sentence 13yo? 16yo to life without parole?

maybe some kids "get it" sooner than others, but I think most have their head up the azz until at least 23 or 25...

You can't tell me a 13yo grasps the seriousness of their actions.

I agree and will like to add to your notion; The victum graps the full extent of said actions and has no way of regaining life. Or at the very least, the family who lost a loved one due to one of these poor babies mistake has no way to regain the loss of a loved one.

If one of these poor babies were to take the life of one of my loved ones, id solve the problem with a bullet between the eyes. That is if I could not get a hold of them a torture them to death. Sorry, I like to remember the victum, not pitty the P.O.S. criminal. I would make sure to point out the errors of these poor babies mistakes. Or at least they would be assured of their mistake, that is before they finally get the lights turned out, permanently.

burniegoeasily · 08-19-2009, 09:31 AM

And before it is asked, I would except the same treatment for one of my kids. That is if they commited a crime that merited such a punishment. I have taught them right, so if they conduct in such behaviour, they need to suffer the consequences for their actions. Like I tell them when they mess up, "you knowingly $#!t in your nest, enjoy sleeping in it now."