Read this toady as I was waiting for medical treatment. Hmmm, isn't this one of the biggest arguement why "Government" care is needed? One more example why this has everything to do with government power grab and not "solving" or "chimerical" healthcare crisis.
Rush had a great point on his show today. Healthy people don't need healthcare, only sick people. How do you control costs if your not planning on rationing and restricting services to sick people?
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
I got a head ache reading that. I have attempted to read the actual bill a few times and get absolutely lost. Just as the article states, you have to look up so many other sections, paragraphs, parts, from other sections or old laws that there is no possible way any one in the world could actually stay on track and understand what is being conveyed.
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"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency........... Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
first the proposed act precludes a denial of coverage based upon a pre-existing condition. it then refers to an existing law, the PHSA, for a definition of "pre-existing condition"
the PHSA defines "pre-existing condition" and then goes on to say in a subsequent paragraph that, basically, they can be excluded from coverage. this, as we know, is the state of the law today. the second paragraph is, however, irrelevant, as the proposed legislation would incorporate the definition, but supercede the 2nd paragraph with respect to coverage.
first the proposed act precludes a denial of coverage based upon a pre-existing condition. it then refers to an existing law, the PHSA, for a definition of "pre-existing condition"
the PHSA defines "pre-existing condition" and then goes on to say in a subsequent paragraph that, basically, they can be excluded from coverage. this, as we know, is the state of the law today. the second paragraph is, however, irrelevant, as the proposed legislation would incorporate the definition, but supercede the 2nd paragraph with respect to coverage.
Was that Fox's or Tommy Seno w/:
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Come with me on this fantastic voyage through a mess of cross-referenced and confusing legalese. As your tour guide, I have nearly 20 years experience in practicing insurance law, but reading this was not easy for me. We can get through it together though.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
the guy's pedigree is irrelevent to me. people make mistakes. i read it differently than he does.
Ah, there in lies the problem. We have 300 million+ different interpretations of the same bill.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
the guy's pedigree is irrelevent to me. people make mistakes. i read it differently than he does.
So I guess that makes you more knowledgeable in insurance law than a lawyer that has practiced for 20 years as his specialty.
The fact of the matter is that this bill is so overladen with bureaucracy that even lawyers can't easily interpret it. It was specifically written to be that way otherwise why isn't simple and easy to read english used. I dare you to name just one, and I say it again, JUST ONE, government run program that has been managed effectively and cost efficiently.
It's a fact, The President, his family and staff, members of Congress, the Senate and their staffs won't be required to be on this health plan but yet it is supposed to be so good for the rest of us. Let's get real here. If it's not good enough for them why is it good enough for us? Tell me that.
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Obama=The Fourth Reich,
Just look at the parallels of the Nazi regime and the Obama Administration amazingly similar arent' they.
Last edited by thndrchiken; 08-14-2009 at 06:04 AM.
Obama's Health Plan will not cover all preexisting conditions
