I will atleast say, I respect you to everone except...
I will give thumbs up to those who have held townhalls and took the heat. My house representative is MIA. I'm thinking of the best way right now to call him on it. Spector, Cardin and Mccaskill, I will show them due respect. There is no way Sheila deserves any respect. Watch this crap. They work for us, at least that was the norm many years ago.
Rep Sheila Jackson Lee talks on the phone as a woman asks a question at a town hall event
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
I'll be honest with you. As much as I oppose this health care plan, if I were a Congressman right now, there's no way I would appear to speak to my constituents until conservatives decided they were tired of throwing temper tantrums like five-year-olds and were ready to express their points a little more respectfully and (more importantly) with a little more maturity.
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Politics, it seems to me, all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour
I'll be honest with you. As much as I oppose this health care plan, if I were a Congressman right now, there's no way I would appear to speak to my constituents until conservatives decided they were tired of throwing temper tantrums like five-year-olds and were ready to express their points a little more respectfully and (more importantly) with a little more maturity.
To come to the defense of the conservatives, most are at their wits end and don't know what to do anymore. NO one is listening and you have to admit there are a lot on the left there making noise in order to make the conservatives get loud!
I don't know if I could contain myself in a meeting where regardless how much we opposed this mess, the mess was being forced down our throats. Expect the noise to get worse, and expect some violence as well. I doubt that anyone (on both sides) is going to sit by and allow government take over. If you can't see this coming, you is blind. I pray it doesn't come to his, because a house divided will not stand!
I'll be honest with you. As much as I oppose this health care plan, if I were a Congressman right now, there's no way I would appear to speak to my constituents until conservatives decided they were tired of throwing temper tantrums like five-year-olds and were ready to express their points a little more respectfully and (more importantly) with a little more maturity.
Yeah, we should put a limit on free speech, right? Please give me a break. Overwhelmingly, the town halls have been conducted in a very civil manner. I've watched a few on TV not the snipits. What your looking at are the juicy highlights that sell ad space. Not everyone can screen everyone and plant questions in the audiance like BHO.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
I don't know if I could contain myself in a meeting where regardless how much we opposed this mess, the mess was being forced down our throats. Expect the noise to get worse, and expect some violence as well.
For someone who calls himself "THE REV", and has a bible verse below each post it surely looks like you can't wait until things turn violent. You have mentioned the prospects of violence in numerous threads. I can assure you that it will be the end of your cause, whatever it may be, if those who believe as you resort to violence.
Yeah, we should put a limit on free speech, right? Please give me a break. Overwhelmingly, the town halls have been conducted in a very civil manner. I've watched a few on TV not the snipits. What your looking at are the juicy highlights that sell ad space. Not everyone can screen everyone and plant questions in the audiance like BHO.
Fieldmouse, you know as well as anyone that freedom of speech comes with a responsibility. Sure, these guys at the town hall meetings have the right to free speech. But they can stand there and yell and shout at each other or an empty podium. There is nothing that says the politicians have to waste their time standing there while these guys make a mockery of the debate process.
If it were accomplishing something, maybe the justification would be in the results. But ask yourself this: Has your mind ever been changed by someone screaming at you and acting rudely? Or does it only strengthen your resolve? These guys aren't winning over the Democratic Congressmen and I don't think they're winning over the American people, either. In the end, they may wind up hurting themselves more than they help.
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Politics, it seems to me, all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour
The most "violent" things I've seen or heard of so far have been a sign getting yanked from the hand of someone protesting bho's plan, a bigger guy trying to force a smaller guy to sit down (the smaller guy was protesting bho's plan), and a fellow with a handicapped son getting threats in the middle of the night after protesting bho's plan at a town hall meeting.
Funny how hillery said for those who disagreed with President Bush should get up in the face of their representatives.
Same 'ol same 'ol--what's good for the libs should be outlawed for conservatives--according to the libs.
Chad
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A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
Fieldmouse, you know as well as anyone that freedom of speech comes with a responsibility. Sure, these guys at the town hall meetings have the right to free speech. But they can stand there and yell and shout at each other or an empty podium. There is nothing that says the politicians have to waste their time standing there while these guys make a mockery of the debate process.
If it were accomplishing something, maybe the justification would be in the results. But ask yourself this: Has your mind ever been changed by someone screaming at you and acting rudely? Or does it only strengthen your resolve? These guys aren't winning over the Democratic Congressmen and I don't think they're winning over the American people, either. In the end, they may wind up hurting themselves more than they help.
Couldn't disagree more with you gris. The polls show the healthcare bill is loosing big time. Right now the majority of Americans don't want it. Right now only 16% of Americans believe there is a crisis with healthcare in America. Look at who is attending the townhalls. It made mostly of the older generation. Old folks are tuning in, seeing their peers all upset and are getting more informed on the issue and realise their care will be rationed. The older generation is the voter block that gets all the attention in an off year election.
Proof will be in the pudding. Let's see who doesn't get back to Washington.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Fieldmouse, you know as well as anyone that freedom of speech comes with a responsibility. Sure, these guys at the town hall meetings have the right to free speech. But they can stand there and yell and shout at each other or an empty podium. There is nothing that says the politicians have to waste their time standing there while these guys make a mockery of the debate process.
If it were accomplishing something, maybe the justification would be in the results. But ask yourself this: Has your mind ever been changed by someone screaming at you and acting rudely? Or does it only strengthen your resolve? These guys aren't winning over the Democratic Congressmen and I don't think they're winning over the American people, either. In the end, they may wind up hurting themselves more than they help.
They're just taking a page out of Obama's Community Organization Playbook...
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Once upon a time our president wasn't always down on dissent. After all, he was a community organizer way before he ever became a politician.
"Go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face," Senator Obama told his supporters on the campaign trail in fall of 2008.