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Old 07-23-2009, 04:47 AM   #1
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Well Said---I don't know where this originated, but I like it!


I have noted that many elected officials, both Democrats and Republicans, called upon America to unite behind Obama.


Well, I want to make it clear to all who will listen that I AM NOT uniting behind Obama!


I will respect the Office which he holds, and I will acknowledge his abilities as an orator and wordsmith and pray for him, BUT that is it.


I have begun today to see what I can do to make sure that He is a one-term President!


Why am I doing this?


It is because I do not share Obama's vision or Value system for America;


I do not share his Abortion beliefs;


I do not share his radical Marxist's concept of re-distributing wealth;


I do not share his stated views on raising taxes on those who make $150,000+ (the ceiling has been changed three times since August);


I do not share his view that America is Arrogant;


I do not share his view that America is not a Christian Nation;


I do not share his view that the military should be reduced by 25%;


I do not share his view of amnesty and giving more to illegal's than American Citizens who need help;


I do not share his views on homosexuality and his definition of marriage;


I do not share his views that Radical Islam is our friend and Israel is our enemy who should give up any land;


I do not share his spiritual beliefs (at least the ones he has made public);


I do not share his beliefs on how to re-work the healthcare system in America;


I do not share his Strategic views of the Middle East, and certainly do not share his plan to sit down with terrorist regimes such as Iran.


Bottom line, my America is vastly different from Obama's, and I have a higher obligation to my Country and my God to do what is Right!


For eight (8) years, the Liberals in our Society, led by numerous entertainers who would have no platform and no real credibility but for their celebrity status, have attacked President Bush, his family, and his spiritual beliefs!


They have not moved toward the center in their beliefs and their philosophies, and they never came together nor compromised their personal beliefs for the betterment of our Country! They have portrayed my America as a land where everything is tolerated except being intolerant!


They have been a vocal and irreverent minority for years; they have mocked and attacked the very core values so important to the founding and growth of our Country!


They have made every effort to remove the name of God or Jesus Christ from our Society! They have challenged capital punishment, the right to bear firearms, and the most basic principles of our criminal code; they have attacked one of the most fundamental of all Freedoms, the right of free speech!


Unite behind Obama? Never!


I am sure many of you who read this think that I am going overboard, but I refuse to retreat one more inch in favor of those whom I believe are the embodiment of Evil!


PRESIDENT BUSH made many mistakes during his Presidency, and I am not sure how history will judge him..


However, I believe that he weighed his decisions in light of the long established Judeo-Christian principles of our Founding Fathers!!!


Majority rules in America, and I will honor the concept; however, I will fight with all of my power to be a voice in opposition to Obama and "his goals for America."


I am going to be a thorn in the side of those who, if left unchecked, will destroy our Country!! Any more compromise is more defeat!


I pray that the results of this election will wake up many who have sat on the sidelines and allowed the Socialist-Marxist anti-God crowd to slowly change so much of what has been good in America!


"Error of Opinion may be tolerated where Reason is left free to combat it." (Thomas Jefferson)



Thanks for your time, be safe. "In God We Trust"


'If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.'


- Ronald Reagan


I WANT THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE BACK.....
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Old 07-23-2009, 05:27 AM   #2
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Here, Here. I agree with you 100%
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:08 AM   #3
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We can defeat Obama and his Socialist cohorts. But the first step is to form a workable compromise between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. It shouldn't be too difficult because social conservatives tend to support conservative fiscal principles. The fiscal conservatives will need to accept some of the limitations on behavior based on moral values that are important to social conservatives. It's not hard to find fiscal conservatives to support who are acceptable to social conservatives.

On the other hand, the social conservatives will have to back off on some of the more extreme concepts sacred to some conservatives. For example, we need to accept that the United States is not a "Christian" nation. There is no mention of Jesus or Christianity anywhere in our founding documents. The motto says "In God We Trust," not "In Jesus We Trust." Although there is no restriction on religious beliefs, the authors of the Constitution made it clear that government was not to involved in organized religion and organized religion was not to be involved in government.

One can oppose abortion and homosexuality on biological grounds. When you start preaching the Bible, you turn people off who don't base their political ideas on Biblical principles. Don't get me wrong. I'm a Christian. I am an observant Catholic. But you can't use the Bible or religious doctrines with people who don't share your beliefs.
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Old 07-23-2009, 12:05 PM   #4
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The motto "In God We Trust" was not the work of the founding fathers. It was not added to coins until 1864, eight decades after the founding of the United States. As DLG said there is no mention of Christianity in any of our founding documents. The word "God" is not found in the U.S. Constitution. Furthermore, when the word is used in the Declaration of Independence it is not in the context of the God of the Bible, the term used is "Nature and Nature's God". "Nature's God" is how Deists of the of 18th century referred to the supreme being. Deism rejects the Bible and all other scripture of revealed religions. The founding fathers such as Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin were all Deists.
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:06 PM   #5
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I agree with every above except that you are NOT going overboard, this just scratches the surface and gives osama WAY to much credit.
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:09 PM   #6
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For example, do a search on the czars that he has put in power and where they came from and what the believe, it will scare the holy hell out of you.
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Old 07-24-2009, 05:08 AM   #7
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The motto "In God We Trust" was not the work of the founding fathers. It was not added to coins until 1864, eight decades after the founding of the United States. As DLG said there is no mention of Christianity in any of our founding documents. The word "God" is not found in the U.S. Constitution. Furthermore, when the word is used in the Declaration of Independence it is not in the context of the God of the Bible, the term used is "Nature and Nature's God". "Nature's God" is how Deists of the of 18th century referred to the supreme being. Deism rejects the Bible and all other scripture of revealed religions. The founding fathers such as Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin were all Deists.
It also says "...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights." There's no question that a Supreme Being is acknowledged, but we are in no way a Christian nation.

Another problem, at least in our modern times, is that there are many different versions of Christianity, not necessarily compatible with each other when it comes to current values.


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Old 07-24-2009, 06:19 AM   #8
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It also says "...endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights." There's no question that a Supreme Being is acknowledged, but we are in no way a Christian nation.

Another problem, at least in our modern times, is that there are many different versions of Christianity, not necessarily compatible with each other when it comes to current values.


The Deists of the 18th century often used the term "creator" when referring to the supreme being without identifying who the creator was. This is very different from terms such as "Jesus", "the God of Abraham" or the "God of the Bible" that Christians would have used. The founding fathers acknowledged the existence of a supreme being but rejected Christianity as just another revealed religion. They considered scripture as nothing more than hearsay and rejected it as a source of truth in favor of what could be learned through the application of human reason.

In the U.S. Constitution, which is the basic governing document for the United States, the founding fathers did not acknowledge the existence of a supreme being of any kind but did place restrictions on religious influence in government. They wrote a document that tolerated religion but did not encourage it. The idea that the United States was founded as a Christian country is a myth that was started by religious fundamentalists in the 19th and 20th centuries.
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