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Old 05-20-2009, 06:00 AM   #1
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Default O'Reilly Drinks the Kool-Aid

O'Reilly thinks the new CAFE standards are a great idea. Says it'll reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Of course, so would drilling our own...

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O'Reilly is to moderate for his own good. I really think all he worries about are ratings. The whole drill now, drill here theory makes a lot of sense. We're looking at 4-8 years of this. If we do hit the 8 year mark, I think the country we know and love will be all together different.
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Old 05-20-2009, 06:21 AM   #3
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Bill has patted himself on the back so long he thinks like a democrap. I can't stand him!
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Old 05-20-2009, 06:34 AM   #4
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Not much of an O'Reilly fan, but I like mandating mileage standards too.
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Old 05-20-2009, 06:58 AM   #5
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Not much of an O'Reilly fan, but I like mandating mileage standards too.
Why should it not be consumer driven rather than dictated by presidential fiat? ***anese cars filled the high-mileage niche, and Detroit has followed suit. U.S. manufacturers, although a bit late to the table, saw the trend and reacted accordingly. GM now produces more models that exceed 30 mpg than Toyota. How many of YOUR consumer decisions are you willing to cede to the control of bureaucrats?

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Old 05-20-2009, 07:00 AM   #6
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even he said drilling would be 15yrs away to see any influence, which sure drill your brains out.

I really don't have a problem with increased fuel standards, but I say let technology give us better mpg and keep the power/vehicle size. Sure a moped gets 100mpg...but you can't haul anything. Not sure how a f250 is going to get 35mpg ?

I just saw a commercial for a hybrid caddillac escilade I think it was....I can't stand these "green" monster trucks... you see alot of the hollywood types saying its a hybrid! ya and its a suburban hybrid getting 20mpg in the city? probably lower on the highway...

ditch that garbage and put a diesel in it! there's a VW vs. toyota hybrid commercial that's pretty funny, basically saying the diesel gets better mileage 58mpg....vs. the hybrd, and the diesel sounds way cooler when it stops on the gas. Keep an eye out for this commerical, pretty cool.


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Old 05-20-2009, 07:09 AM   #7
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even he said drilling would be 15yrs away to see any influence, which sure drill your brains out.
I believe that was Colmes, who was being interviewed during that segment. Colmes said 10 years. And, that 10 years is hogwash. Maybe 10-15 years until fields were fully developed to full production potential, but, I guarantee you could start seeing oil coming off the OCS within a year if you removed the political red-tape.

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I really don't have a problem with increased fuel standards, but I say let technology give us better mpg and keep the power/vehicle size. Sure a moped gets 100mpg...but you can't haul anything. Not sure how a f250 is going to get 35mpg ?
It's fleet averages. I don't think he means EVERY VEHICLE must get at least 35 mpg.

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I just saw a commercial for a hybrid caddillac escilade I think it was....I can't stand these "green" monster trucks... you see alot of the hollywood types saying its a hybrid! ya and its a suburban hybrid getting 20mpg in the city? probably lower on the highway...
Didn't you just say you "like" increased fuel standards? And in the next paragraph, you say you detest trucks designed with more fuel efficient engines?

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ditch that garbage and put a diesel in it! there's a VW vs. toyota hybrid commercial that's pretty funny, basically saying the diesel gets better mileage 58mpg....vs. the hybrd, and the diesel sounds way cooler when it stops on the gas. Keep an eye out for this commerical, pretty cool.
Diesel is just one part of the equation. You're not going to get 58 mpg out of a diesel powered Escalade...


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Fuel efficiency standards are a good thing. What many people don't realize though is that the technology to make the vehicles more fuel efficient has been around for that last 50 years. The auto industry in bed with the oil industry is what has kept it from being utilized.
The size of European cars is dictated more by the size of the roads in Europe than anything else. Most European roadways were horse drawn carriage roads that got paved over. For them to enlarge the roads that would mean completely rebuilding entire cities.
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:18 AM   #9
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So, how many of your consumer decisions are YOU willing to cede to King Obama? What would you say if he said "In order to reduce cow flatulence, a known climate changing gas, and in order to promote healthier lifestyles and lowered medical costs, I hereby order that from this day forth, all Americans shall be vegans."
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:27 AM   #10
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Ithink that if the decisions were left entirely to consumers, most folks would still be driving Lincoln Continentals and Bigfoot trucks that run on leaded gas and get 8 miles per gallon. I'm not a big fan of government mandates, but this is one that makes sense to me, especially if it has a long-term ofeffect of depriving places like the Middle East, West Africa, and Venezuela or their"strategic" importance.

Dunno how i ended up 2500 posts ahead of you, sincewe both seem equally inclined to beverbose[8D]
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