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Old 05-19-2009, 03:06 AM   #1
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By ARTHUR LAFFER and STEPHEN MOORE
With states facing nearly $100 billion in combined budget deficits this year, we're seeing more governors than ever proposing the Barack Obama solution to balancing the budget: Soak the rich. Lawmakers in California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York and Oregon want to raise income tax rates on the top 1% or 2% or 5% of their citizens. New Illinois Gov. Patrick Quinn wants a 50% increase in the income tax rate on the wealthy because this is the "fair" way to close his state's gaping deficit.


[/align][/align][/align]Mr. Quinn and other tax-raising governors have been emboldened by recent studies by left-wing groups like the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities that suggest that "tax increases, particularly tax increases on higher-income families, may be the best available option." A recent letter to New York Gov. David Paterson signed by 100 economists advises the Empire State to "raise tax rates for high income families right away."
Here's the problem for states that want to pry more money out of the wallets of rich people. It never works because people, investment capital and businesses are mobile: They can leave tax-unfriendly states and move to tax-friendly states.
And the evidence that we discovered in our new study for the American Legislative Exchange Council, "Rich States, Poor States," published in March, shows that Americans are more sensitive to high taxes than ever before. The tax differential between low-tax and high-tax states is widening, meaning that a relocation from high-tax California or Ohio, to no-income tax Texas or Tennessee, is all the more financially profitable both in terms of lower tax bills and more job opportunities.
Updating some research from Richard Vedder of Ohio University, we found that from 1998 to 2007, more than 1,100 people every day including Sundays and holidays moved from the nine highest income-tax states such as California, New Jersey, New York and Ohio and relocated mostly to the nine tax-haven states with no income tax, including Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire and Texas. We also found that over these same years the no-income tax states created 89% more jobs and had 32% faster personal income growth than their high-tax counterparts.
Did the greater prosperity in low-tax states happen by chance? Is it coincidence that the two highest tax-rate states in the nation, California and New York, have the biggest fiscal holes to repair? No. Dozens of academic studies -- old and new -- have found clear and irrefutable statistical evidence that high state and local taxes repel jobs and businesses.
Martin Feldstein, Harvard economist and former president of the National Bureau of Economic Research, co-authored a famous study in 1998 called "Can State Taxes Redistribute Income?" This should be required reading for today's state legislators. It concludes: "Since individuals can avoid unfavorable taxes by migrating to jurisdictions that offer more favorable tax conditions, a relatively unfavorable tax will cause gross wages to adjust. . . . A more progressive tax thus induces firms to hire fewer high skilled employees and to hire more low skilled employees."
More recently, Barry W. Poulson of the University of Colorado last year examined many factors that explain why some states grew richer than others from 1964 to 2004 and found "a significant negative impact of higher marginal tax rates on state economic growth." In other words, soaking the rich doesn't work. To the contrary, middle-class workers end up taking the hit.
Finally, there is the issue of whether high-income people move away from states that have high income-tax rates. Examining IRS tax return data by state, E.J. McMahon, a fiscal expert at the Manhattan Institute, measured the impact of large income-tax rate increases on the rich ($200,000 income or more) in Connecticut, which raised its tax rate in 2003 to 5% from 4.5%; in New Jersey, which raised its rate in 2004 to 8.97% from 6.35%; and in New York, which raised its tax rate in 2003 to 7.7% from 6.85%. Over the period 2002-2005, in each of these states the "soak the rich" tax hike was followed by a significant reduction in the number of rich people paying taxes in these states relative to the national average. Amazingly, these three states ranked 46th, 49th and 50th among all states in the percentage increase in wealthy tax filers in the years after they tried to soak the rich.
This result was all the more remarkable given that these were years when the stock market boomed and Wall Street gains were in the trillions of dollars. Examining data from a 2008 Princeton study on the New Jersey tax hike on the wealthy, we found that there were 4,000 missing half-millionaires in New Jersey after that tax took effect. New Jersey now has one of the largest budget deficits in the nation.
We believe there are three unintended consequences from states raising tax rates on the rich. First, some rich residents sell their homes and leave the state; second, those who stay in the state report less taxable income on their tax returns; and third, some rich people choose not to locate in a high-tax state. Since many rich people also tend to be successful business owners, jobs leave with them or they never arrive in the first place. This is why high income-tax states have such a tough time creating net new jobs for low-income residents and college graduates.
Those who disapprove of tax competition complain that lower state taxes only create a zero-sum competition where states "race to the bottom" and cut services to the poor as taxes fall to zero. They say that tax cutting inevitably means lower quality schools and police protection as lower tax rates mean starvation of public services.
They're wrong, and New Hampshire is our favorite illustration. The Live Free or Die State has no income or sales tax, yet it has high-quality schools and excellent public services. Students in New Hampshire public schools achieve the fourth-highest test scores in the nation -- even though the state spends about $1,000 a year less per resident on state and local government than the average state and, incredibly, $5,000 less per person than New York. And on the other side of the ledger, California in 2007 had the highest-paid classroom teachers in the nation, and yet the Golden State had the second-lowest test scores.
Or consider the fiasco of New Jersey. In the early 1960s, the state had no state income tax and no state sales tax. It was a rapidly growing state attracting people from everywhere and running budget surpluses. Today its income and sales taxes are among the highest in the nation yet it suffers from perpetual deficits and its schools rank among the worst in the nation -- much worse than those in New Hampshire. Most of the massive infusion of tax dollars over the past 40 years has simply enriched the public-employee unions in the Garden State. People are fleeing the state in droves.
One last point: States aren't simply competing with each other. As Texas Gov. Rick Perry recently told us, "Our state is competing with Germany, France, ***an and China for business. We'd better have a pro-growth tax system or those American jobs will be out-sourced." Gov. Perry and Texas have the jobs and prosperity model exactly right. Texas created more new jobs in 2008 than all other 49 states combined. And Texas is the only state other than Georgia and North Dakota that is cutting taxes this year.
The Texas economic model makes a whole lot more sense than the New Jersey model, and we hope the politicians in California, Delaware, Illinois, Minnesota and New York realize this before it's too late.
Mr. Laffer is president of Laffer Associates. Mr. Moore is senior economics writer for the Wall Street Journal. They are co-authors of "Rich States, Poor States" (American Legislative Exchange Council, 2009).
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Old 05-19-2009, 04:57 AM   #2
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Sure, its a no brainer. I moved to Texas at the age of 39 for two reasons: (1) better professional labor market and (2) low taxes. What is "low taxes?" No state income tax and no sales tax on food. I have talked with many non-native Texans who moved here because of the better financial situation here. I know a guy who moved his business here from California because of the obscene anti-business climate in California. He employs about 50 people.

But the people the politicians are grand standing for in those states -- New York, California, Illinois -- do not have brains. These are the hoi poloi who only see short term, very short term. "In five years this bill is going to crest the hill of killing more tax revenue than it generates? Let's party for 5 years dude!!!!"

Democracy is far from perfect. We ought to have some sort of property qualification to vote or wealth qualification to vote. It is the only way to prevent the poor from voting themselves public moneys at the expense of the hardworking affluent.
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Old 05-19-2009, 05:06 AM   #3
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Updating some research from Richard Vedder of Ohio University, we found that from 1998 to 2007, more than 1,100 people every day including Sundays and holidays moved from the nine highest income-tax states such as California, New Jersey, New York and Ohio and relocated mostly to the nine tax-haven states with no income tax, including Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire and Texas.
Its a symptom of a problem and also a problem in of itself.

How long before these transplants demand more social programs, more public transportation and other left-wing sugar daddy niceties that they were used to and voted for in their former states? They are a lot like locusts- stripping the land of tax money and moving to places with lots of low hanging fruit.
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Old 05-19-2009, 05:10 AM   #4
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And now, today Cali. is going to have thier public VOTE for rasing taxes or cutting funding. Expected that 25% turn out will do the voting. A simple, and cheap skate way of forcing the people to make the decisions that the politicians don't want to make for fear of loosing the support of the people. Sad thing is, the 25% that will turn out will probably be the least educated on what it is that they are voting for, or against! I'd guess that the vote goes in favor of more taxes, because those that will be voting already rely on the gov. for handouts and think it's only right to continue in taxing the rich.
If they shoot themselves in the foot enough, that foot will eventually rot off and they will becrippled for the rest of thier lifes.
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How long before these transplants demand more social programs, more public transportation and other left-wing sugar daddy niceties that they were used to and voted for in their former states? They are a lot like locusts- stripping the land of tax money and moving to places with lots of low hanging fruit.
That's one view. Another view is that these transplants are well educated, successful professionals who do not subscribe to the "swing on the government sugar teet to satisfy all of your needs" view of economy. I don't think those who depend on the government for handouts have the gumption to move. Additionally, if they were into handouts, why would they move? If you want to enjoy the public largesse, you are going to leave California to move to Texas? I don't think so.

Another point I failed to make above. People will also leave these anti-success states such as New York and Illinois where they were educated at public expense for other states with greater economic opportunity, such as Texas. I was educated in public schools and a state university in Illinois, and now the Texas economy is the beneficiary of that public investment on the part of Illinois. One of my friends grew up in Binghamton, New York and was educated at State University of New York Binghamton (math degree). Binghamton is a burnt out shell, while formerly it had a strong local economy. Again, Texas, land of opportunity for the hard working and skilled, is the beneficiary of New York state's public schools and universities. I think the New York university system even provided free tuition, at least 20 years ago.
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Democracy is far from perfect.Â* We ought to have some sort of property qualification to vote or wealth qualification to vote.Â* It is the only way to prevent the poor from voting themselves public moneys at the expense of the hardworking affluent.

Now this is BS! I can hear what you are saying about democracy being far from perfect and that people are voting in the wrong people, but if you set stipulations on who is qualified to vote, why can't government then decide where one can buy property, live, or who can and can't own a gun, etc.? You can't have it both ways here. Freedom & democracy IS far from perfect and this is just an example of how sometimes it doesn't all work out the way some people want it to.









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That's one view. Another view is that these transplants are well educated, successful professionals who do not subscribe to the "swing on the government sugar teet to satisfy all of your needs" view of economy. I don't think those who depend on the government for handouts have the gumption to move. Additionally, if they were into handouts, why would they move? If you want to enjoy the public largesse, you are going to leave California to move to Texas? I don't think so.
There is a good deal of public largesse, even here in Texas. I know that Harris County Hospital District gives away $100 Million per year in free treatment for illegal aliens...

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Another point I failed to make above. People will also leave these anti-success states such as New York and Illinois where they were educated at public expense for other states with greater economic opportunity, such as Texas. I was educated in public schools and a state university in Illinois, and now the Texas economy is the beneficiary of that public investment on the part of Illinois.
Ditto. Better job market. Better tax climate. Better "attitude". All made the decision to move from Illinois to Texas very easy.
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Democracy is far from perfect. We ought to have some sort of property qualification to vote or wealth qualification to vote. It is the only way to prevent the poor from voting themselves public moneys at the expense of the hardworking affluent.
Now this is BS! I can hear what you are saying about democracy being far from perfect and that people are voting in the wrong people, but if you set stipulations on who is qualified to vote, why can't government then decide where one can buy property, live, or who can and can't own a gun, etc.? You can't have it both ways here. Freedom & democracy IS far from perfect and this is just an example of how sometimes it doesn't all work out the way some people want it to.
While I understand the difficulties of implementation, I tend to agree with Alsatian on this issue. I'm not sure how to structure it. A property ownership requirement, or maybe as long as you are on the dole, you don't get to vote. The "right" to vote yourself money from the public coffers is a sure way to destroy the nation, and it's happening NOW. People need to have a stake in the country, not a stake in other people's wallets.
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While I understand the difficulties of implementation, I tend to agree with Alsatian on this issue.Â* I'm not sure how to structure it.Â* A property ownership requirement, or maybe as long as you are on the dole, you don't get to vote.Â* The "right" to vote yourself money from the public coffers is a sure way to destroy the nation, and it's happening NOW.Â* People need to have a stake in the country, not a stake in other people's wallets.
What about the many people that are in the 20-30 year old range that may not own property yet, and are just starting out in life? Many are far from being on public assistance. This age bracket would be the first to be called up if they were needed in defense of the country, yet they should not have the right to vote? I have news for you guys also. LOTS of liberal thinkers own a good deal of property and aren't on public assistance, in fact some have more money than you guys can count (Soros, Bloomberg i.e) so a property ownership requirement wouldn't eliminate nearly as many people as you guys might think.




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What about the many people that are in the 20-30 year old range that may not own property yet, and are just starting out in life? Many are far from being on public assistance. This age bracket would be the first to be called up if they were needed in defense of the country, yet they should not have the right to vote?
That's the reason I suggested the "on the dole" exclusion as an alternative to the property ownership exclusion.

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I have news for you guys also. LOTS of liberal thinkers own a good deal of property and aren't on public assistance, in fact some have more money than you guys can count (Soros, Bloomberg i.e) so a property ownership requirement wouldn't eliminate nearly as many people as you guys might think.
It's amazing how folks who are so utterly brain-dead on the issues can somehow be smart enough to accumulate a good deal of wealth.
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