If you read this carefully, you can see the flaws in certain types of surveys. Communications is a complicated thing and sometimes the transmission gets garbled. It like listening to a lot of different conversations in an open cafeteria. Sometimes you think you heard something, but you didn't hear it correctly. At other times, you don't hear the complete conversation or hear it out of context.
Anyway, I've been lucky, I guess. Have always had very steady employment in a field of high demand.
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Noticed engineers are on the top of the list. Just wait till the NCLB kids hit the work force, there will be no new engineers. Hard to do college level physics when NCLB forced the teachers to dumb it down for the masses.
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Burnie its going to be the same in any skilled field. What I'm seeing are some very talented kids that have little or any useful skills, they can photo shop their girlfriends face on Megan Foxes body but can't do basic trig.
Ever notice how many cash registers make change automatically?
Most of todays job seekers have very little ability to work unassisted or to trouble shoot a production problem and come up with a working solution.
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Burnie its going to be the same in any skilled field. What I'm seeing are some very talented kids that have little or any useful skills, they can photo shop their girlfriends face on Megan Foxes body but can't do basic trig.
Ever notice how many cash registers make change automatically?
Most of todays job seekers have very little ability to work unassisted or to trouble shoot a production problem and come up with a working solution.
Something else Ive noticed is, the lack of work ethic. It is impossible to get a kid to work beyond their comfort zone. And their personal comfort zone is rather low.
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Unintended consequences and God have one thing in common: Liberals dont believe in either of them.
It like listening to a lot of different conversations in an open cafeteria. Sometimes you think you heard something, but you didn't hear it correctly. At other times, you don't hear the complete conversation or hear it out of context.
"The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has been acheived." (unknown - to me anyway)
Well, according to the comcast article it appears that only petroleum engineering positions are difficult to fill - not engineering jobs in general. "Engineering" is a BROAD field.
Here is another link that helps explain why petroleum engineers are hard to find and hire.
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Well, according to the comcast article it appears that only petroleum engineering positions are difficult to fill - not engineering jobs in general. "Engineering" is a BROAD field.
One of the things I found interesting in the article was the point made by EPI -- lacking evidence of low unemployment and rising wages (in the Engineering field) you don't have a shortage. VERY ON POINT. Is there a shortage of engineers or just a shortage of engineers who want to work cheap? My office is full of former engineers who are now patent attorneys. If engineering had proven a well paying career, many of these guys would have remained in engineering. When engineers hit a salaryceiling at 30 years of age ataround $80 K, you are going to find a lot of the engineers punch out and find something better to do with the next 35 years of their working life.
The professions of teaching and engineering have shared something of the same trajectory. It used to be that teaching was a well compensated, professional career. I don't think you will find many teachers these days who will agree that it is a well compensated profession. Engineering is headed down the same path, if it isn't there already.
Here is another link that helps explain why petroleum engineers are hard to find and hire.
$105K to start? Whew! Not bad for a 20 something.
Excellent salary to start. Today. I wonder what it will pay 7 years out . . . like when we are in the next deep oil recession? I bet there were a lot of petroleum engineers who were either unemployed or underpaid during the years 1985 through about 2005, you know, when oillong hovered around $14/barrel. Lets also remember that probably a good portion of these petroleum engineers aren't living in swanky digs in Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, Denver. I imagine a lot of them are living in buttf-in remote third world areas or in buttf-in remote rural areas in the US.
Long and short of it, on the subject of youngsters with prospects heading into engineering, I'm not sure I would encourage my son -- who is finishing up his last final exam as a college freshman today, so this is not an abstract issue to me-- to pursue petroleum engineering as a career. The boom-bust cycle endemic to petroleum engineering would have to be high on the "CON" list comparing pros and cons of career paths. The necessity to locate in undesirable locations would also have to be high on the "CON" list. Would you want to live in SW Wyoming with your wife and kids and send your kids to the best schools that Rock Springs, Wyoming has to offer? I'm guessing those schools aren't too good. If you're OK with Rock Springs, what about Khazakstan?
I can't speak for the small schools in Rock Springs directly, but it's my thought that small schools can often have better teaching than large schools. And, WY. DOES have some pretty dang good hunting!
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