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Old 05-12-2009, 04:24 AM   #1
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Soda Tax Weighed to Pay for Health Care



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Senate leaders are considering new federal taxes on soda and other sugary drinks to help pay for an overhaul of the nation's health-care system.
The taxes would pay for only a fraction of the cost to expand health-insurance coverage to all Americans and would face strong opposition from the beverage industry. They also could spark a backlash from consumers who would have to pay several cents more for a soft drink.
On Tuesday, the Senate Finance Committee is set to hear proposals from about a dozen experts about how to pay for the comprehensive health-care overhaul that President Barack Obama wants to enact this year. Early estimates put the cost of the plan at around $1.2 trillion. The administration has so far only earmarked funds for about half of that amount.
The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington-based watchdog group that pressures food companies to make healthier products, plans to propose a federal excise tax on soda, certain fruit drinks, energy drinks, sports drinks and ready-to-drink teas. It would not include most diet beverages. Excise taxes are levied on goods and manufacturers typically pass them on to consumers.
Senior staff members for some Democratic senators at the center of the effort to craft health-care legislation are weighing the idea behind closed doors, Senate aides said.
The Congressional Budget Office, which is providing lawmakers with cost estimates for each potential change in the health overhaul, included the option in a broad report on health-system financing in December. The office estimated that adding a tax of three cents per 12-ounce serving to these types of sweetened drinks would generate $24 billion over the next four years. So far, lawmakers have not indicated how big a tax they are considering.
Proponents of the tax cite research showing that consuming sugar-sweetened drinks can lead to obesity, diabetes and other ailments. They say the tax would lower consumption, reduce health problems and save medical costs. At least a dozen states already have some type of taxes on sugary beverages, said Michael Jacobson, executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest.
"Soda is clearly one of the most harmful products in the food supply, and it's something government should discourage the consumption of," Mr. Jacobson said.
The main beverage lobby that represents Coca-Cola Co., PepsiCo Inc., Kraft Foods Inc. and other companies said such a tax would unfairly hit lower-income Americans and wouldn't deter consumption.
"Taxes are not going to teach our children how to have a healthy lifestyle," said Susan Neely, president of the American Beverage Association. Instead, the association says it's backing programs that limit sugary beverage consumption in schools.
Some recent state proposals along the same lines have met stiff opposition. New York Gov. David Paterson recently agreed to drop a proposal for an 18% tax on sugary drinks after facing an outcry from the beverage industry and New Yorkers.
The beverage-tax proposal would apply to drinks that many Americans don't consider unhealthy -- such as PepsiCo's Gatorade and Kraft's Capri Sun -- based on their calorie content.
Health advocates are floating other so-called sin tax proposals and food regulations as part of the government's health-care overhaul. Mr. Jacobson also plans to propose Tuesday that the government sharply raise taxes on alcohol, move to largely eliminate artificial trans fat from food and move to reduce the sodium content in packaged and restaurant food.
The beverage tax is just one of hundreds of ideas that lawmakers are weighing to finance the health-care plans. They're expected to narrow the list in coming weeks.
The White House, meanwhile, is pulling together private health groups to identify cost savings that will help fund the health overhaul. Mr. Obama on Monday held a White House meeting with groups that represent doctors, hospitals, insurers, pharmaceutical companies and medical-device makers. They pledged to help restrain cost increases in the health-care system in an effort to save $2 trillion over the next decade.
"When it comes to health-care spending, we are on an unsustainable course that threatens the financial stability of families, businesses and government itself," Mr. Obama told reporters.
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:49 AM   #2
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sin taxes abound in this nation don't they ?


and yes, Obama-God said no taxes for $250,000 and under
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"Soda is clearly one of the most harmful products in the food supply, and it's something government should discourage the consumption of," Mr. Jacobson said.
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Im ready for a cap and trade on Farts.
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It would not include most diet beverages.
Whew. I dodged this bullet... I only drink Diet sodas...
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and yes, Obama-God said no taxes for $250,000 and under
[bho]You are correct that I said "no tax increases for those making $250,000 and under."What you need to understand is that the previous administration allowed the fine people of our country to drink whatever they want and, as a result there are lots of fat people. The previous administration caused far more fat people, in fact, than I anticipated at the time that I made that statement. Furthermore, I was specifically referring to income taxes. I was not referring to a variety of user taxes intended to guide people to correct behavior. User taxes, such as the soda pop tax, are avoidable, since all you need to do is stop drinking soda pop and, if you do, you will not pay the tax. Therefore it is not a tax increase. "[/bho]
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:18 AM   #7
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Heck, since Dr. Pepper is going to get more expensive, I guess Ill just have to bite the bullet and drink more beer.
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diet soda's are more harmful than, say, Jones soda's

fake sugars are one of the great evils of today's world



but if its all so bad .......... why have it legal to begin with? $$$$$$$ ?
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The previous administration allowed fast food restraunts to grow unchecked.These dispensers of unhealthy food are causing our society to become grossly obese; there are not enough slim trim young men and women to fight our wars.Tax fast food, now. File a class action lawsuit.
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:03 AM   #10
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perhaps we need to install some sort of regimented health and exercise plan to be exercised by all. those that can't keep up can be given "special treatment" The governemnt has been far to lenient on the fatter, slower, dumber members of our society. It's holding the rest of us back
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