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Old 05-11-2009, 07:10 AM   #1
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I remember all those democrats blasting Bush for his deficits. I had one guy at work saying tome that "at least democrats pay for their spending. If you're going to spend the money, find a way to pay for it." Needless to say, he hasn't visited my office lately. Makeno mistake, the ONLY thing certain about thisunprecedented spending is that the bill will come due. For every dollar we borrow, by definition we are living $1 beyond our means, and our kids will have to live MORE THAN $1 BELOW THEIR MEANS (PRINCIPAL PLUS INTEREST) TO PAY FOR IT. What could possibly be more despicable than for one generation to spend another's opportunity to have a decent life? As someone put it recently, its like going to a restaurant, and the adults skipping the check and leaving the kids at the table. []

New Projections Show $1.8T Deficit for 2009
The newly projected deficit is now $1.8 trillion, four times last year's deficit and higher than originally estimated.

FOXNews.com
Monday, May 11, 2009
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[/align][/align][/align][/align][/align]WASHINGTON-- Imagine earning $50,000 a year and spending $100,000. That's a lot of money owed to somebody.
Now imagine the government spending $3.6 trillion and borrowing nearly half of it. Again, big debt to pay.
That's what the Office of Management and Budget is predicting.
OMBDirector Peter Orszag announced Monday that a $90 billion increase in the estimated deficit for each of the next two years would bring the deficit for fiscal year 2009 to $1.8 trillion and for 2010 to $1.3 trillion. President Obama's proposed budget for 2010 is $3.6 trillion. The 2009 budget was set at $3.1 trillion.
Those numbers are up from February's estimates. The budget deficits will be 12.9 percent and 8.5 percent of gross domestic product in those two years, Orszag said. The budget deficit for fiscal year 2009, which ends Sept. 30, is four times the record set last year.
Orszag said the increases are "driven in large part by the economic crisis inherited by this administration."
The cause for these record deficits? Deep recession, Wall Street bailout, economic stimulus bill and lower than expected tax revenues.
The bright side?The actual 2009 deficit could end up to be $250 billion less than predicted because Congress is unlikely to provide another $250 billion in financial bailout money.
Annual deficits would never dip below $500 billion and would total $7.1 trillion over 2010-2019. Even those dismal figures rely on economic projections that are significantly more optimistic than those forecast by private sector economists and the Congressional Budget Office. They rely on a 1.2 percent decline in GDPthis year and a 3.2 percent growth rate for 2010.
Congressional Republicans noted almost immediately that the newest figures foresee the deficit growing by $89 billion more than what was predicted three months ago. They note that's five times the amount the administration proposed saving last week by cutting out $17 billion in 100 programs that Orszag said Monday "don't work or whose costs are excessive."
For the most part, Obama's updated budget tracks the 134-page outline he submitted to lawmakers in February. His budget proposes higher taxes for the wealthy, a hotly contested effort to combat global warming and the first steps toward universal health care coverage.
Obama's Democratic allies controlling Congress have already made it clear that they will reject key elements of his plan. Apparently dead is a plan to raise $267 billion over the next decade to pay for his health care initiative by curbing the ability of wealthier people to reduce their tax bills through deductions for mortgage interest, charitable contributions and state and local taxes.
And the congressional budget plan approved last month would not extend Obama's signature $400 tax credit for most workers -- $800 for couples -- after it expires at the end of next year.
Obama's remarkably controversial "cap-and-trade" proposal to curb heat-trapping greenhouse gas emissions is also reeling from opposition from Capitol Hill Democrats from coal-producing regions and states with concentrations of heavy industry. Under cap-and-trade, the government would auction permits to emit heat-trapping gases, with the costs being passed on to consumers via higher gasoline and electric bills.
Among the new proposals is a plan -- already on its way through Congress -- that would increase the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation's borrowing authority from $30 billion to $100 billion in order to grant a two-year reprieve from higher deposit insurance premiums while the industry is struggling.
Also new are several tax "loophole" closures and increased IRS tax compliance efforts to raise $58 billion over the next decade to help finance Obama's health care measure. The money makes up for revenue losses stemming from lower-than-hoped estimates of his proposal to limit wealthier people's ability to maximize their itemized deductions.
The updated budget also would repeal an unintended tax windfall taken by paper companies that use a byproduct in the paper-making process as fuel to power their mills. The tax credits were never intended for paper companies, but now they could be worth more than $3 billion a year, according to a congressional estimate.
The budget would make permanent the expanded $2,500 tax credit for college expenses that was provided for two years in the just-passed economic stimulus bill. It also would renew most of the Bush tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003, and would permanently update the alternative minimum tax so that it would hit fewer middle- to upper-income taxpayers.
The AssociatedPress contributed to this report.

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Old 05-11-2009, 07:36 AM   #2
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yeah... but.... but..... but...... Bush broke things so bad that Obama has been forced to spend that much in order to fix the problems that were handed to him. [/Democrat Blithering Idiot]
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:47 AM   #3
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What's really sad is Obama's spending isn't fixing the problem. It isn't jump starting the economy, creating new and lasting good jobs or even just transferring debt from the consumer (us citizens to the government. Instead, he's spending money on cheap feelgood items that are just leaving a big credit card bill (government debt) for us citizens to pay for. It's kind of like watching a pair of out of control spending teenagers somehow being put in charge of the family finances.

Of course the Kool-Aid drinkers don't see this for what it is and still want to bash Bush (he did make mistakes) instead of solve the problems. Bashing Bush was an effective election strategy (it did work) but it's a terrible governing strategy. In psychobabble speak, it's like an angry ex-wife/husband who wants you to lose your job to teach you a lesson even though the family will now have no income and become destitute. Or as Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does.[:@]
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Old 05-11-2009, 07:49 AM   #4
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If you look at this post, and then consider your other post which suggests that Obama is overestimating economic growth, the deficit is likely to end up even higher...
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:36 AM   #5
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How did Bush leave a mess? The war cost $1 trillion, which is a fractionof Obama's spending ALREADY. Also, Bush spent and borrowed too much, was all for low interest rates and easy credit and Obama is doing the same thing. You'd think if Bush was so bad, Obama would do the OPPOSITE, not the same thing!
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:14 AM   #6
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How did Bush leave a mess?
I was going for the sarcastic jab at the expected "Democrat Blithering Idiot" response to your post...
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:42 AM   #7
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Conservative experts actually expect that all the government spending will give a TEMPORARY boost to the economy but then leave us worse off than we are now. Mainly because many jobs are temporary and then it all has to be paid for. Look for double digit inflation as well from burning up the printing presses making worthless money.
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And what's the fastest growing job market right now, gooberment jobs of course. What was it, something like 72,000 new gooberment jobs so far. Wooo Hooo! I wonder how many jobs have been "saved"? Never have figured out how the gooberment knows if it has "saved" a job or not!
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:13 AM   #9
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Why dont we see fodder and the other liberals defending this stuff.


Wait, Ill post their token response.

"Bush did XXXXXX, Cheney did XXXXXXX Obama good." Replace the XXXXXs with what ever problem the country is having. Take for example;

Michelle Obama- "Ok. Who farted "
Obama supporter- "Bush did, Obama good"

Or,

White house cook- "Alright, who put the empty milk carton back in the fridge"
Barack- "Bush did. Im good"

Or

Michelle Obama heads to the bathroom, and before she gets there Barack Obama screams to her.
Barack Obama- " Honey, Cheneyleft the lid upummmm, uuu, emmmm, uuuu Change, Hope,, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm, and he left it up for Bush, emmmmm ummmmmm, So Bush did it, im good. Ill add an extra 50 billion to my budget to investigate why they left the lid up."

See, it works just fine. All problems solved.



I wonder how creative the Obamanation will be in fabricating ways to pin the problems on Bush in 2012.
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And what's the fastest growing job market right now, gooberment jobs of course. What was it, something like 72,000 new gooberment jobs so far. Wooo Hooo! I wonder how many jobs have been "saved"? Never have figured out how the gooberment knows if it has "saved" a job or not!
Isnt it great. We are going to be taking from the private sector, which creates perminate jobs, to fuel the government sector. What happens when the private sector dies?
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