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Old 05-05-2009, 09:23 AM   #1
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From a California school teacher - - -

'As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic
and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. ( OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK )

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing
funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America .. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, c all ing them 'Putas' whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day care
etc., etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements ?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it . Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?


It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses
to assimilate , and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about ' politically correctness' that we don't have the will to do anything about it.

If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.

Consumers don't want expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase 'cheap labor' is a myth , a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as 'cheap labor.'

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for
$5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an 'earned income credit' of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches
at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense .

He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

Working Americans
are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.

The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'

THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:08 PM   #2
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That school teacher has hit it right on the head.

Illegal aliens are a rare bi-partisan thing: The fat cat doners to the Republican party demand cheap labor. The Democrats want to register those illegals to vote.
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:35 PM   #3
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No falcon, I would thank the independent voter out there who has no core beliefs and just follows the lunch crowd at chow time.

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The fat cat doners to the Republican party demand cheap labor.
Got any proof on this this post or are you just repeating the main stream media BS?
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Fact is, it's the conservative Republicans who time and time again come out against amnesty. We're done being lied to. All these programs and all these calls for amenesty are coming from the Independents and the Democrat party. They have time and time again blocked everything that has come down the pike to curb this crap. When will folks wake up and learn?
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:50 PM   #4
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"Change you can believe in". Nothing will change until theres new leadership. I expect it to get much worse before it gets any better. Iam stocking up on DittyMoore.
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Old 05-05-2009, 05:12 PM   #5
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No falcon, I would thank the independent voter out there who has no core beliefs and just follows the lunch crowd at chow time.

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The fat cat doners to the Republican party demand cheap labor.
Got any proof on this this post or are you just repeating the main stream media BS?
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Fact is, it's the conservative Republicans who time and time again come out against amnesty. We're done being lied to. All these programs and all these calls for amenesty are coming from the Independents and the Democrat party. They have time and time again blocked everything that has come down the pike to curb this crap. When will folks wake up and learn?
No core beliefs, lets check out how strong the Republican parties core beliefs are , Bush was in favor of giving illegals amnesty, Bush sold out the free market and started the ball rolling on all the trillions of dollars in bailouts weve given, Cheneys daughters a lesbian, not only that but she had a baby which makes her an unwed lesbian mother.

As for proof on the cheap labor thing you really dont have to look any further than the "guest worker" program they pushed for, instead of deportation they wanted them here to legally work in the country, funny way to treat criminals isnt it, not when theyre your labor pool I guesse.

Fine bunch you get led around by FM, a damn fine bunch
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Old 05-05-2009, 05:37 PM   #6
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Bush was in favor of giving illegals amnesty,
Correct yourself there peta, Bush was never a conservative. He gave us perscription drugs to the old folks when it was never needed. Don't even try to go there.
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Bush sold out the free market and started the ball rolling on all the trillions of dollars in bailouts weve given
Never agreed with any bailout, I say let the market take care of it.
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Cheneys daughters a lesbian
WTF does this have to do with anything? Are you that fricking much of an idiot?
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not only that but she had a baby which makes her an unwed lesbian mother.
And then you can't let up? Unbelievable.Hmm, wasn't it your niece that was unwed and pregnant? Should we now discuss her sexual habits?

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As for proof on the cheap labor thing you really dont have to look any further than the "guest worker" program they pushed for, instead of deportation they wanted them here to legally work in the country, funny way to treat criminals isnt it, not when theyre your labor pool I guesse.
first off who pushed for what? Secondly, I'm not against imigration like I see you are. A guess worker program goes through congress in a constitutional way. I'm all for that. I'm not for rewarding illegals. I would deport them. How many conservatives were for this program? Where is the problem? You can argue if it's needed or not. In your line of work, from the complaints you've posted, it's looks like more quality of workers need to be imported since you can't find any worth a rats you know what.
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Remember thatWya Bush guy who used to be POTUS. Yep, the one that was elected 5-4 by the US Supreme Court. Bush and his Feel Good Homeland Insecurity Director pushed for amnesty fortheir beloved illegals.

I was a Republican for 50 years. Everything that the national Republican party ever believed in was thrown away in 1980 when the party decided that an agenda of feel good stuff would play much better than fiscal conservatism.The national Republican party kissed up to the TV mega preachers like Robertson and Falwell. The mega preachers got theirlisteners energized against flag burning, gay marriage, abortion and a host of other feel good stuff. Under the cover of feel good stuff the Republican party ran up a budget deficit of 8 trillion dollars.

Then it ran out of steam in 2006. Since 2006 the national Republican party has been out of ideas, out of power and out of touch. They are reduced towhimpering and whining.

WillFM isplease enumerate and explain all of those so called "core" Republican beliefs. BTW: Fiscal conservatism isno longera "core"Republican belief.
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Yep, the one that was elected 5-4 by the US Supreme Court.
No, Bush was elected by the majority vote in the Electorial college. It's too bad your memory is so short as to not remember the constitutional process in the USA.
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Bush and his Feel Good Homeland Insecurity Director pushed for amnesty fortheir beloved illegals.
and who stopped it?
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I was a Republican for 50 years. Everything that the national Republican party ever believed in was thrown away in 1980 when the party decided that an agenda of feel good stuff would play much better than fiscal conservatism.
1980? Like I said, it's too bad you are so uneducated about our constitution to know who spends the money. Republicans only took charge of the purse strings in 1994. Until then the had limited control.
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The national Republican party kissed up to the TV mega preachers like Robertson and Falwell. The mega preachers got theirlisteners energized against flag burning, gay marriage, abortion and a host of other feel good stuff.
Yeah yeah yeah, don't reveal your closet habits. It's like that's all they did. I guess you've only turned on the drive by media in all those years.
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Under the cover of feel good stuff the Republican party ran up a budget deficit of 8 trillion dollars.
better check your facts, your dead wrong.

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Then it ran out of steam in 2006. Since 2006 the national Republican party has been out of ideas, out of power and out of touch. They are reduced towhimpering and whining.
No not out of ideas, we only need to shed the independents and moderates like yourself. We are doing fine. We have our biggest poster child in office, your man Obama.
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WillFM isplease enumerate and explain all of those so called "core" Republican beliefs. BTW: Fiscal conservatism isno longera "core"Republican belief.
We shall see how it turns out. I don't run like you from conservative principles. Wasn't it you who quit the republican party when Reagan was elected? Wasn't it you who didn't believe in tax cuts which means you would prefer paying 70% federal taxes (that is if you make that much money)? falcon, I don't run and jump on the independent bandwagon. Please remind me of the "CORE" independent principles? Who was your last national candidate? I seem to forget their name. I stay true to my conservative principles. I don't follow the chow line like you. I believe we are over regulated, I believe we are over taxed, I believe our freedoms are lost when we can't buy cars of our choice, build what we want with the materials we prefer to use, I believe I have a right to throw trash in one bin if I choose, I believe we should be allowed to pray in schools ....... I could go on all night. You however could only respond with one. I believe in the second admendment.
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Until THE PEOPLE pose a serious threat to their jobs, Our reps will have nothing to do with stopping illegal immigration. The Republicans had a very good oppertunity to act and didn't, The Dems love then to death.
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No falcon, I would thank the independent voter out there who has no core beliefs and just follows the lunch crowd at chow time.

You crack me up. What if the Demo., or Rep., beliefs are not what you believe? You would be following the Demo/Rep.lunch crowd, right? But I guess that would be an acceptable blind following, right? If any, I would align myself more with the Liberterians. But not 100%. So to follow, would be just as you suggest, blind following.
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