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Old 04-24-2009, 07:32 AM   #1
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Recieved this alert this morning and an ARRA alert yesterday............

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In February 2009, our members received a SAWS Action Alert regarding the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA) that had been recently reintroduced in the 111th Congress by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-New York.This new NREPA bill in this Congress is HR980.

Please review our previous alert from February 2009 at this link:
http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/Action_Alerts/09/SAWS_Action_Alert_-_NREPA_introduced_in_111th_Congress.htm

Recently, SAWS has been informedbyBrian Hawthorneat the BlueRibbon Coalition, that there may be a committee hearing on NREPA the first week of May. This will not be the first time this legislation has had a committee hearing, but it is important that our elected representatives know how we feel about this lousy legislation. If you did not contact your U.S. Representative last February, or even if you did, it is important that you contact themagain within the next week and tell them you do not support this legislation!

Link to look upand contact your US Representative:
Lookup your U.S. House Representative

Comment deadline: Sunday May 3, 2009

NREPA will affect significant acreage (23 -24 millions acres) across the IntermountainandWestern states of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming as shown in the maps providedat this link:
http://www.wildrockiesalliance.org/issues/nrepa/mapIndex.shtml

Here is a link tothe tracking summary:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-980


You may also wish to takea few minutesto listen to SAWS chairman, Dave Hurwitz' interview with Lee Hinkelman in regards to theNorthern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act. Dave makes excellent points on the distinction of what wilderness is as opposed to publicly managed lands.There is also mention of how stimulus monies aredirected at tearing up 6000 miles of roads.Lee broadcasts from New York but recognizes the values we all hold with the power of our voice to our senators and representatives nationwide. NREPA will affect the entirecountry in some manner not just within the states where actual closures are proposed primarily in the West.Click on segments 3 and 4 from the Weekend of February 21, 2009 once you have linked to the connection:
http://www.bigfrog104.com/TipsforBetterLiving/SnowmobileOneidaCounty/SnowmobileShow/tabid/3397/Default.aspx

Some of our newer SAWS members may also wish to review our SAWS alert from October 2007, just in case this is the first time you have heard about this outrageous legislation. SAWS has been opposing this legislation and informing our members about this proposal for many years:
http://www.snowmobile-alliance.org/Action_Alerts/07/SAWS_Action_Alert_-_Hearing_on_Northern_Rockies_Ecosystem_Protection_ Act.htm



If not you, who else will help stop this insanity?

Janine Stewart
Montana SAWS rep
Snowmobile Alliance of Western States
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:35 AM   #2
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Some testimony from a LOCAL representative of the affected districts

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Testimony of Congressman Denny Rehberg (MT-At Large)
Opposing the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act
Tuesday, May 05, 2009
Committee on Natural Resources
Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands


Chairman Grijalva, Ranking Member Bishop, thanks for allowing me to return to
the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands to testify again on behalf
of the people of Montana.


I"™m here representing county commissioners, state representatives, ranchers,
timber workers, sportsmen and women and recreationalists who have expressed their
opposition to the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act in letters, faxes, emails,
survey responses and even a rapidly growing Facebook group. All told, I"™ve heard from
almost 10,000 folks who live in the Northern Rockies "“ who consider the land at issue in
the legislation we are discussing today to be their home. It"™s where they live, work and
raise a family.
I"™m here to report that more than 96% of us who live in these areas oppose this
bill. In my years of public service "“ beginning in the state legislature, then as Montana"™s
Lieutenant Governor and now as the sole Representative in the House, I can think of few
subjects that have evoked such a unified opposition.
If Congress wants to, it can ignore these concerns and pass NREPA without their
consent and without a single vote from any of their Congressional Representatives. The
land NREPA federalizes is represented by only 7 Members of Congress including myself;
far fewer than the 72 current cosponsors of the bill. Congress can just say it"™s
inconvenient that none of those 72 cosponsors are from the districts that NREPA impacts.
Recently, Congress passed the Omnibus Lands Act, which created over 2 million
acres of new wilderness, this bill carves out more than 24 million acres of new
wilderness. That area is larger than any of the districts represented by the 72 cosponsors
of the bill. In fact, out of 435 Congressional Districts, only 18 are larger. Representative
Carolyn Maloney "“ who is the lead sponsor of this bill "“ could fit her New York district
into the new wilderness created by NREPA almost 3,000 times.
And while you may have the votes to force your will on the people who live in the
Northern Rockies, I"™m here to tell you that doing so isn"™t in anyone"™s best interest. Not
the folks who live on this land, and not the people you were elected to represent. It"™s not
even in the best interest of the ecosystems we all want to protect.
Let me be absolutely clear about something. The folks I represent support
responsible land conservation. Currently, there are more than 30 million acres of state
and federal land in Montana alone - that"™s nearly one acre in every three. As a state
where lifestyles and livelihoods depend on the land we live upon, it"™s one of our top
priorities. And we do an outstanding job.
To manage these lands, stake-holders come to the table and formulate consensusdriven
solutions at the local level. The federal government could learn a lot from
examples in my state that center around three words: cooperation, trust and consensus.
For example, the Undaunted Stewardship approach demonstrates the ability of farm and
ranch families to contribute to the preservation of open space and scenic beauty while
continuing to use the land for productive purposes.
Rehberg 2
For the Montanans who work, till, graze, hunt, fish, hike, camp and enjoy this
land, conservation is not only a daily personal choice; it"™s our way of life. Real
conservation isn"™t about making tough decisions for someone else who lives thousands of
miles away, yet that"™s exactly what NREPA does.
The workable solutions we need won"™t come from Washington, D.C.; we need to
reach a balance that truly reflects Montana not the ideals of powerful special interests.
From Washington, D.C., it"™s impossible to smell the toxic smoke from hundreds
of raging wildfires that will be harder to fight if NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., it"™s impossible to see the 1.6 million-plus acres of dead
and dying trees that result from pine beetle infestations that will be more difficult to
manage if NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., you can"™t watch a hillside change colors as indigenous
plants are slowly strangled out of existence by toxic weeds that are impossible to fight
once NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., you can"™t hear the frustration in the voice of a hunter or
angler who can no longer get to the secluded mountain ridge where his family has gone
for generations once NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., you can"™t walk on the overgrazed lands once managed
by ranchers who can no longer take their open range livestock to new pastures once
NREPA passes.
From Washington, D.C., Congress pushes for alternative energy from wind and
the sun. But how can we get that power, and create green jobs in the process, if we can"™t
build transmission grids across our lands once NREPA passes?
And there"™s a new concern looming in the minds of the folks around Montana and
the country. There aren"™t many things folks in the Northern Rockies care more about
than their Second Amendment rights. Bills like NREPA create more federally controlled
land, but they don"™t guarantee Second Amendment rights on that land. The recent
decision to eliminate Second Amendment Rights on some federal lands is nothing more
than back-door gun control, and it"™s not hard to imagine wilderness as the next target for
restricted gun access. I"™m concerned that NREPA has no guarantees that the federal
government won"™t someday ban guns on other federal lands the way it just did in
National Parks.
At the end of the day, this is about Washington, D.C. thinking it knows how to
manage the Northern Rockies better than the people who live there. I"™m here to say this
isn"™t the case.
Many of Representative Maloney"™s constituents in New York"™s 14th District
undoubtedly find Central Park a welcome refuge from the urban surroundings of
America"™s most crowded city. A Montanan who visited Central Park recently shared an
observation with me: Although Central Park was free of buildings and streets, many of
the open spaces were cordoned off by fences. Visitors could walk or run on centrally
planned pathways, but the fields of grass around them were off limits. NREPA models
its philosophy for 24 million acres of land after the approach taken in the 843 acres of
Central Park. Look, but don"™t touch.
This approach may work in Manhattan, New York, but it doesn"™t work in
Manhattan, Montana. I can"™t stress how crucial that distinction is, and that"™s why I
oppose this bill.
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There is more here....................

If you click on the panel members name in this link you can read their testimony.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:46 AM   #3
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an alert from the supporters of this bill.....Look how gun and hunter friendly they are!!





Dear Jim,
Loaded weapons in our National Parks?
It's already passed in the Senate.
Your action is needed today to keep our parks safe.
This week, the U.S. House of Representatives may vote on a bill of great concern to those who cherish our national parks and the wildlife they host.
Believe it or not, we're talking about the Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights Act. What does credit reform have to do with national parks? Nothing. Yet, astonishingly, Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., has attached a rider to the bill that would allow individuals to carry loaded weapons in national parks. Take action now.
If the bill passes with the rider attached, anyone would be allowed to carry loaded weapons "“ including semi-automatics "“ in our national parks.
Can you imagine the implications for wildlife poaching and visitor safety?
Not only is this a dangerous idea but it makes no sense attaching it to a bill that seeks to help Americans in difficult times.
This bill passed the Senate last week. It's now up to us to stop the rider "“ take action now.
The gun effort has been widely opposed by park rangers and seven former directors of the Park Service who say it would increase the risk of poaching and vandalism of historic resources and put visitors at risk.
Please tell your Representative to stop this ill-conceived idea and to keep our beloved parks free of loaded weapons.
Sincerely,
Kathy Kilmer
The Wilderness Society


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How'd that song from the 70's go? "....one tin soldier rides away"?
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